From luca at pca.it  Wed Feb  2 10:23:15 2005
From: luca at pca.it (Luca Capello)
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:23:15 +0100
Subject: [s-xml-devel] Simple character sets: what does it mean?
Message-ID: <87acqnmfak.fsf@gismo.pca.it>

Hello!

In order to let s-xml enter in Debian, I had been asked for the
meaning of the limitation of s-xml in supportin "simple character
sets" [1].

AFAIK, the only explanation I found is the same provided in the MySQL
Reference Manual [2]:
=====
If the character set does not need to use special string collating
routines for sorting and does not need multi-byte character support,
it is simple.

If it needs either of those features, it is complex.
=====

Am I correct?

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=292643
[2] http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/adding-character-set.html
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From sven at beta9.be  Thu Feb  3 09:48:17 2005
From: sven at beta9.be (Sven Van Caekenberghe)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 10:48:17 +0100
Subject: [s-xml-devel] [PATCH] Add ChangeLog
Message-ID: <6f5d9d7d2fb15b918ad3de32aeefcfbf@beta9.be>

Luca,

Thanks for the patch, I was actually planning on doing this, now I had 
no reasons left to postpone it ;-)

Sven

On 30 Jan 2005, at 20:06, Luca Capello wrote:

> Hello!
>
> This is my second post, actually, but anyway, I'd like to say hello
> all on this list.
>
> As I previously posted, attached a patch that add a ChangeLog to the
> latest CVS sources. It is completely derived from the S-XML site [1].
>
> Thx, bye,
> Gismo / Luca
>
> [1] http://common-lisp.net/project/s-xml/
> diff -Naur s-xml.ORG/ChangeLog s-xml/ChangeLog
> --- s-xml.ORG/ChangeLog	1970-01-01 01:00:00.000000000 +0100
> +++ s-xml/ChangeLog	2005-01-30 19:52:12.000000000 +0100
> @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@
> +13 Jan 2004 Sven Van Caekenberghe <svc at mac.com>
> +	* Release 3
> +	* added ASDF systems
> +	* optimized print-string-xml
> +
> +10 Jun 2003 Sven Van Caekenberghe <svc at mac.com>
> +	* Release 2
> +	* added echo-xml function: we are no longer taking the car when
> +	the last seed is returned from start-parse-xml
> +
> +25 May 2003 Sven Van Caekenberghe <svc at mac.com>
> +	* Release 1
> +	* first public release of working code
> +	* tested on OpenMCL
> +	* rewritten to be event-based, to improve efficiency and to
> +	optionally use different DOM representations
> +	* more documentation
> +
> +end of 2002 Sven Van Caekenberghe <svc at mac.com>
> +	* Release 0
> +	* as part of an XML-RPC implementation
> +
> _______________________________________________
> s-xml-devel site list
> s-xml-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/s-xml-devel



From scaekenberghe at common-lisp.net  Thu Feb  3 09:52:46 2005
From: scaekenberghe at common-lisp.net (Sven Van Caekenberghe)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 10:52:46 +0100
Subject: [s-xml-devel] Simple character sets: what does it mean?
In-Reply-To: <87acqnmfak.fsf@gismo.pca.it>
References: <87acqnmfak.fsf@gismo.pca.it>
Message-ID: <2a8e07a0389fdbade88dc9160133af59@common-lisp.net>

On 02 Feb 2005, at 11:23, Luca Capello wrote:

> Hello!
>
> In order to let s-xml enter in Debian, I had been asked for the
> meaning of the limitation of s-xml in supportin "simple character
> sets" [1].
>
> AFAIK, the only explanation I found is the same provided in the MySQL
> Reference Manual [2]:
> =====
> If the character set does not need to use special string collating
> routines for sorting and does not need multi-byte character support,
> it is simple.
>
> If it needs either of those features, it is complex.
> =====
>
> Am I correct?
>
> Thx, bye,
> Gismo / Luca
>
> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=292643
> [2] http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/adding-character-set.html

Well, the limitation in S-XML is that I/we did not yet make any effort 
to support anything but the basic CL character type (and string or 
stream type). But in a CL implementation that makes all characters, 
strings and streams unicode, that should solve most problems, I think. 
So it more or less depends on the underlying CL - with the restriction 
that full unicode support has not yet been proven as far as I know.

Sven



From sven at beta9.be  Thu Feb  3 09:48:17 2005
From: sven at beta9.be (Sven Van Caekenberghe)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 10:48:17 +0100
Subject: [s-xml-devel] [PATCH] Add ChangeLog
In-Reply-To: <87d5vmspmf.fsf@gismo.pca.it>
References: <87d5vmspmf.fsf@gismo.pca.it>
Message-ID: <ec78c3cdef6dee04936e9b5ba9ab9c21@beta9.be>

Luca,

Thanks for the patch, I was actually planning on doing this, now I had 
no reasons left to postpone it ;-)

Sven

On 30 Jan 2005, at 20:06, Luca Capello wrote:

> Hello!
>
> This is my second post, actually, but anyway, I'd like to say hello
> all on this list.
>
> As I previously posted, attached a patch that add a ChangeLog to the
> latest CVS sources. It is completely derived from the S-XML site [1].
>
> Thx, bye,
> Gismo / Luca
>
> [1] http://common-lisp.net/project/s-xml/
> diff -Naur s-xml.ORG/ChangeLog s-xml/ChangeLog
> --- s-xml.ORG/ChangeLog	1970-01-01 01:00:00.000000000 +0100
> +++ s-xml/ChangeLog	2005-01-30 19:52:12.000000000 +0100
> @@ -0,0 +1,22 @@
> +13 Jan 2004 Sven Van Caekenberghe <svc at mac.com>
> +	* Release 3
> +	* added ASDF systems
> +	* optimized print-string-xml
> +
> +10 Jun 2003 Sven Van Caekenberghe <svc at mac.com>
> +	* Release 2
> +	* added echo-xml function: we are no longer taking the car when
> +	the last seed is returned from start-parse-xml
> +
> +25 May 2003 Sven Van Caekenberghe <svc at mac.com>
> +	* Release 1
> +	* first public release of working code
> +	* tested on OpenMCL
> +	* rewritten to be event-based, to improve efficiency and to
> +	optionally use different DOM representations
> +	* more documentation
> +
> +end of 2002 Sven Van Caekenberghe <svc at mac.com>
> +	* Release 0
> +	* as part of an XML-RPC implementation
> +
> _______________________________________________
> s-xml-devel site list
> s-xml-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/s-xml-devel



From luca at pca.it  Thu Feb  3 22:26:51 2005
From: luca at pca.it (Luca Capello)
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:26:51 +0100
Subject: [s-xml-devel] Simple character sets: what does it mean?
In-Reply-To: <2a8e07a0389fdbade88dc9160133af59@common-lisp.net>
References: <87acqnmfak.fsf@gismo.pca.it>
	<2a8e07a0389fdbade88dc9160133af59@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <87zmyl1dqs.fsf@gismo.pca.it>

Hi Sven!

On Thu 03 Feb 2005 10:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
 > Well, the limitation in S-XML is that I/we did not yet make any effort
> to support anything but the basic CL character type (and string or
> stream type). But in a CL implementation that makes all characters,
> strings and streams unicode, that should solve most problems, I
> think. So it more or less depends on the underlying CL - with the
> restriction that full unicode support has not yet been proven as far
> as I know.

Thank you for the explanation. I included a README.Debian file in the
Debian package, but IMHO it should be better to include a README in
the upstream S-XML. ASAP I'll submit a patch ;-)

Here it is:
=====
README for the Debian cl-s-xml package
--------------------------------------

* Supported character sets

While S-XML authors do not make any efforts to support anything but
the basic Common Lisp character type (and string or stream type), any
character set which is implemented by the underlying Common Lisp
should be supported by S-XML as well.


 -- Luca Capello <luca at pca.it>, Thu,  3 Feb 2005 22:36:33 +0100
=====

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
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From scaekenberghe at common-lisp.net  Sun Feb  6 19:01:56 2005
From: scaekenberghe at common-lisp.net (Sven Van Caekenberghe)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:01:56 +0100
Subject: [s-xml-devel] Release 5
Message-ID: <a75d6ce3a845e0f148a4bf8f3a7b0641@common-lisp.net>

Hi All,

I made a 'new' release of S-XML (after some project housekeeping I made 
a new tgz ;-).

There is now a ChangeLog:

        * release 5 (cvs tag RELEASE_5)
	* added :start and :end keywords to print-string-xml
	* fixed a bug: in a tag containing whitespace, like <foo> </foo> the 
parser collapsed
	  and ingnored all whitespace and considered the tag to be empty!
           this is now fixed and a unit test has been added
	* cleaned up xml character escaping a bit: single quotes and all 
normal whitespace
	  (newline, return and tab) is preserved a unit test for this has been 
added
	* IE doesn't understand the &apos; XML entity, so I've commented that 
out for now.
	  Also, using actual newlines for newlines is probably better than 
using #xA,
	  which won't get any end of line conversion by the server or user 
agent.

I tested this only on LispWorks 4.4 (Mac OS X) using plain ASDF.
Let me know if something is broken on some other platform.

Sven



From scaekenberghe at common-lisp.net  Mon Feb 14 17:45:59 2005
From: scaekenberghe at common-lisp.net (Sven Van Caekenberghe)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:45:59 +0100
Subject: [s-xml-devel] Request for testing
Message-ID: <fc0b8e97191725093a89cf05435a0505@common-lisp.net>

I recently made some commits to the CVS version, described as:

ported to clisp 2.32 (sysdeps)
changed end-of-header test to accept empty lines as well
changed usage to princ to write-string where possible
fixed a test (added import, unintern code to/from s-xml-rpc-exports)

Could somebody else please confirm that I didn't break anything on 
platforms that I don't use (among others, CMUCL, SBCL, Windows, ..) ?

I would like to make a new release and sync up the documentation a bit.

Sven