From marijnh at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 11:09:24 2011
From: marijnh at gmail.com (Marijn Haverbeke)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:09:24 +0200
Subject: [postmodern-devel] loading trivial-utf-8
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> What do you think of removing these two files? Since Quicklisp it is much
> easier to load libraries.

That would also be an option, but I think I prefer the cruder approach
of just using a different name for now. Quicklisp probably made things
better, but the proliferation of tiny packages is still something I'd
rather avoid. You apparently have another system using trivial-utf-8,
but I think that on the whole there are very few people using that.



From lisp.linux at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 09:22:31 2011
From: lisp.linux at gmail.com (Antony)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:22:31 -0700
Subject: [postmodern-devel] cl-postgress build warning due to multiple
	loading
Message-ID: <4E3A64D7.6050208@gmail.com>

Hi

I am beginning to use cl-postgress part of postmodern
It is working well, Thank you.

I have an issue that would be nice to fix.
When I do
(asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op :cl-postgres)

I see couple of warnings like
;Compiler warnings for 
"/media/sf_git/thirdparty/postmodern/simple-date/cl-postgres-glue.lisp" :
;   In an anonymous lambda form at position 857: Duplicate definitions 
of (:METHOD CL-POSTGRES:TO-SQL-STRING (DATE)), in this file and in 
"/media/sf_git/thirdparty/postmodern/simple-date/cl-postgres-glue.lisp"

I think they are due to
in file cl-postgress.asd at the end you have
      (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op :simple-date-postgres-glue)
and again in
simple-date.asd you have the same line
      (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op :simple-date-postgres-glue)

Can this be fixed.

I am using CCL
Clozure Common Lisp Version 1.7-dev-r14812M-trunk  (LinuxX8664)!

My ASDF is a bit old (2.011.9), asdf is one hting I don't like 
upgrading, causes me a lot of pain.

-Antony






From marijnh at gmail.com  Fri Aug 12 14:40:49 2011
From: marijnh at gmail.com (Marijn Haverbeke)
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:40:49 +0200
Subject: [postmodern-devel] cl-postgress build warning due to multiple
	loading
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I've pushed a patch. Apparently ASDF2's operation-done-p claims that a
package has been loaded, even when it hasn't. This was causing the
glue to be loaded after both systems, rather than after the one that
got loaded last. I've committed a patch that makes the check a bit
more crude, checking directly for packages and symbols, rather than
for ASDF operations, but this seems to work.



From stassats at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 04:04:12 2011
From: stassats at gmail.com (Stas Boukarev)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 08:04:12 +0400
Subject: [postmodern-devel] cl-postgress build warning due to multiple
	loading
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Marijn Haverbeke <marijnh at gmail.com> writes:

> I've pushed a patch. Apparently ASDF2's operation-done-p claims that a
> package has been loaded, even when it hasn't. This was causing the
> glue to be loaded after both systems, rather than after the one that
> got loaded last. I've committed a patch that makes the check a bit
> more crude, checking directly for packages and symbols, rather than
> for ASDF operations, but this seems to work.
>
I don't understand how is simple-date supposed to be loaded now. Just
loading postmodern doesn't seem to be sufficient anymore. Should it be
loaded explicitly?

-- 
With best regards, Stas.



From lisp.linux at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 07:09:08 2011
From: lisp.linux at gmail.com (Antony)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:09:08 -0700
Subject: [postmodern-devel] cl-postgress build warning due to multiple
 loading
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Message-ID: <4E462314.1090702@gmail.com>

On 8/12/2011 7:40 AM, Marijn Haverbeke wrote:
> I've pushed a patch. Apparently ASDF2's operation-done-p claims that a
> package has been loaded, even when it hasn't. This was causing the
> glue to be loaded after both systems, rather than after the one that
> got loaded last. I've committed a patch that makes the check a bit
> more crude, checking directly for packages and symbols, rather than
> for ASDF operations, but this seems to work.
>
Works for me (I am using only cl-postgres). Warnings are gone.
Thank you
-Antony



From marijnh at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 08:31:43 2011
From: marijnh at gmail.com (Marijn Haverbeke)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:31:43 +0200
Subject: [postmodern-devel] cl-postgress build warning due to multiple
	loading
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> I don't understand how is simple-date supposed to be loaded now. Just
> loading postmodern doesn't seem to be sufficient anymore. Should it be
> loaded explicitly?

Yes. (And it has been like this for a long time.)



From stassats at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 12:34:18 2011
From: stassats at gmail.com (Stas Boukarev)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:34:18 +0400
Subject: [postmodern-devel] cl-postgress build warning due to multiple
	loading
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Marijn Haverbeke <marijnh at gmail.com> writes:

>> I don't understand how is simple-date supposed to be loaded now. Just
>> loading postmodern doesn't seem to be sufficient anymore. Should it be
>> loaded explicitly?
>
> Yes. (And it has been like this for a long time.)
It was intended like this?
Because before dfb9da112410ccc60d92d7bc8ce0c1efb41b6e9e
loading postmodern loaded simple-date too.
Anyway, I'm happy with either way, as long as it's
deterministic.

-- 
With best regards, Stas.



From marijnh at gmail.com  Sat Aug 13 13:24:26 2011
From: marijnh at gmail.com (Marijn Haverbeke)
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:24:26 +0200
Subject: [postmodern-devel] cl-postgress build warning due to multiple
	loading
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> It was intended like this?

Yes. This way you can also choose to use local-time for date/time
representation, or not load a date/time data structure at all if you
don't need it.