From yubao.liu at gmail.com  Tue Oct 12 10:55:17 2010
From: yubao.liu at gmail.com (Yubao Liu)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 03:55:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [mel-base-devel] please update mel-base
Message-ID: <02b5b9e0-2fdc-438d-b32b-b55b5e7e3be2@u4g2000prk.googlegroups.com>

Hi,

The mel-base package shipped by quicklisp is very old as quicklisp use
deprecated darcs
repository, the mel-base developers have switched to git:
    http://common-lisp.net/project/mel-base/mel-base.git
I find this link from http://common-lisp.net/project/mel-base/ to
http://pmeta.net/projects/mel-base/.

Hi Jochen, could you fix the common-lisp.net page? The download link
is dead and the darcs link
should be replaced with a link to git repository.



From yubao.liu at gmail.com  Wed Oct 13 15:01:39 2010
From: yubao.liu at gmail.com (Liu Yubao)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:01:39 +0800
Subject: [mel-base-devel] git repository link is down
Message-ID: <AANLkTinLtrGfH+P8aRDaGuzOwd1e=CxBfmbknE1EJnPy@mail.gmail.com>

[[ cross post to quicklisp, hope this isn't annoying as they are all
low volume lists. ]]

Hi Jochen,

I'm glad you fixed the mel-base web page on common-lisp.net quickly,
but Zach and I find
the git repository link is down, could you tell me what happened?
  [[ http://github.com/quicklisp/quicklisp-projects/issues#issue/9 ]]

And the mel-base-announce link on
http://common-lisp.net/project/mel-base/ is wrongly
pointed to mel-base-devel, I think it's better just remove it or fix
the link and announce
a new release, I'm very surprised and happy to see mel-base is
maintained continuously
and well, thanks for your excellent effort.

Recently I'm annoyed many mail clients are stupid to process huge
amounts of mails by IMAP:
   * Thunderbird freezes very often, almost useless
   * Opera responses well but it tries to download all mail headers
which I don't want,
     and it's closed source software.
   * Mutt doesn't show mail list at all before it finishes downloading
all mail headers, too stupid.
   * Alpine tries to download all mail headers and freeze if I want to
sort by thread, and Alpine
     is a little slow to download mails compared to Mutt, I don't know why.
   * Emacs + Gnus/VM/Mew/Wanderlust all freeze when downloading data
because Emacs is
     a single thread application.

As a Common Lisp newbie, I'm playing with some CL libraries about mail
processing,
    * cl-postoffice: maintained well by Franz Inc, but not portable.
    * mel-base: seems very mature (I see you deal with gmail, that's
what I need:-), but document isn't good enough.
    * clonsigna: new and interesting, but not mature enough.

I'm playing mel-base now, hope it help me make a stupid mail client to
handle huge amounts of
mails properly.

Regards,
Yubao Liu