From kentilton at gmail.com Wed Dec 13 22:01:29 2006 From: kentilton at gmail.com (Ken Tilton) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:01:29 -0500 Subject: [computed-class-devel] Re: [cells-devel] CVS: Missing file variables.lisp ?! In-Reply-To: References: <4580347E.3000701@gmail.com> <458041B2.50105@gmail.com> <45804412.3090209@gmail.com> <45804E5A.1020500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45807839.8010903@gmail.com> Attila Lendvai wrote: > ok, bring it back on list then. there are useful infos in these > mails... (or not :) hey, I want equal time. how come the archives are empty? all the action over at wdim? ken > >> We? Parallel project? You and Thomas? C4? Other_________? >> >> Is it open source? Has it changed much/been rewritten from scratch? What >> are you using it for, if you can say? > > > oh, i tought you heard about it, its at: > http://common-lisp.net/project/computed-class/ > > it's rewritten from scratch. has a little different nomenclature, but > i'm planning to rename "computed-state" to "cell" after talking with > the others, to bring the two projects closer. of course you're welcome > to contribute/use/join the list/etc... > >> I do not mind at all. Keeps you yobbo rugrats out of my hair. :) And NIH > > > hehe :) > >> is certainly my guiding light in software development... I can write my >> own as fast as I can learn someone else's nonsense, and then it does >> /exactly/ what I want and I know it cold and I can change it and.... > > > well, i'm not that NIH-oriented, a well written lib can be useful, but > i agree that *sometimes* it's worth rolling your own. hm, now that i'm > thinking about it, we've ended up not using clsql and cells... maybe i > do have NIH, i'm just not aware of it... :) but i do try first with > the existing libs. > > we had a headache with cells that some internal state got corrupted > and from then we had to reload the lib to make it work again. all this > in the middle of a big rewrite. then the next day we rolled a > prototype that in a few hours that was doing all we needed (we need a > simple engine cells-wise, but full clos integration on the other > hand). > > we use it for keeping computed state (for caching purposes) in sync > with the declared state inside the model. "the model" is an UML-like > data model integrated with CLOS. you write something like UML > (semantically) and get a working app with persistency and a web gui. > > we is a small startup, working on http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-wdim/ > > if you don't mind we may bring this back to the list. but i didn't > want to shamelessly advertise the project on the cells list... > > -- > - attila > > "- The truth is that I've been too considerate, and so became > unintentionally cruel... > - I understand. > - No, you don't understand! We don't speak the same language!" > (Ingmar Bergman - Smultronst?llet) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >cells-devel site list >cells-devel at common-lisp.net >http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cells-devel > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: kentilton.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 171 bytes Desc: not available URL: