From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Thu Sep  6 21:29:47 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 23:29:47 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] New CLFSWM version planned for this week-end.
Message-ID: <871uiergac.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Hi everybody,

I'm about to release a new CLFSWM version this week-end. Have you
anything to report before?
Recently, I have closed a bug caused by the new Gimp comportment
(hiding the main window hide also the dialog window. So the screen
flickers because CLFSWM is optimized to hide unseen windows).

There is also a new contrib/wallpaper.lisp file in contrib which allow
different wallpapers on each screen heads. Maybe you can find this
useful.

Thanks for any remarks,

Best regards,

Philippe



From ales.guzik at gmail.com  Thu Sep  6 22:17:09 2012
From: ales.guzik at gmail.com (Ales Guzik)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 01:17:09 +0300
Subject: [clfswm-devel] New CLFSWM version planned for this week-end.
In-Reply-To: <871uiergac.fsf@common-lisp.net>
References: <871uiergac.fsf@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <CADT2y-3hWHpU_yiibJhRrRNRH_mDn6N4Km_Ge68OnQQ0WCZXbA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Philippe,

Some time ago something had changed and now if I press alt+t and
immediately follow it by some key (e.g. t to open terminal) before "second
mode" label appear in rectangle, this key "falls through" and is received
by current child. For example current child is gmail opened in firefox, I
want to launch something, rapidly type alt+t ! and get current mail marked
as spam instead of getting command execution prompt.

Also there is a minor problem with skype: when you open contact details
window, then close it by either pressing escape or ctrl-esc s, you can no
longer open it neither for this contact nor for any other. Also I had same
problem with chat windows in previous skype versions - if you close chat
with someone, you can't open it without skype restart.

Also sometimes if I open 2 or more windows in a frame and select tile top
or tile right layout with keep frame child position set to "no" it tiles
windows the way as there's one more window. After alt+tab layout become
correct. This bug occurs pretty rear and unlike two others is not annoying
at all.

At the moment, that's all the problems I have experienced with CLFSWM.

Regards,
Ales.
07.09.2012 0:30 ???????????? "Philippe Brochard" <pbrochard at common-lisp.net>
???????:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm about to release a new CLFSWM version this week-end. Have you
> anything to report before?
> Recently, I have closed a bug caused by the new Gimp comportment
> (hiding the main window hide also the dialog window. So the screen
> flickers because CLFSWM is optimized to hide unseen windows).
>
> There is also a new contrib/wallpaper.lisp file in contrib which allow
> different wallpapers on each screen heads. Maybe you can find this
> useful.
>
> Thanks for any remarks,
>
> Best regards,
>
> Philippe
>
> _______________________________________________
> clfswm-devel mailing list
> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
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From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Fri Sep  7 19:59:03 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:59:03 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] New CLFSWM version planned for this week-end.
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-3hWHpU_yiibJhRrRNRH_mDn6N4Km_Ge68OnQQ0WCZXbA@mail.gmail.com>
	(Ales Guzik's message of "Fri, 7 Sep 2012 01:17:09 +0300")
References: <871uiergac.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<CADT2y-3hWHpU_yiibJhRrRNRH_mDn6N4Km_Ge68OnQQ0WCZXbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <877gs561vc.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Ales Guzik writes:

> Hi Philippe,
>
Hi Ales,

> Some time ago something had changed and now if I press alt+t and immediately
> follow it by some key (e.g. t to open terminal) before "second mode" label
> appear in rectangle, this key "falls through" and is received by current child.
> For example current child is gmail opened in firefox, I want to launch
> something, rapidly type alt+t ! and get current mail marked as spam instead of
> getting command execution prompt.
>
I have the same behaviour on my machine. I'll have a look. The mode
switch is not as fast as expected sometimes. 

> Also there is a minor problem with skype: when you open contact details window,
> then close it by either pressing escape or ctrl-esc s, you can no longer open
> it neither for this contact nor for any other. Also I had same problem with
> chat windows in previous skype versions - if you close chat with someone, you
> can't open it without skype restart.
>
I don't use skype actually. I'll try before the release.

> Also sometimes if I open 2 or more windows in a frame and select tile top or
> tile right layout with keep frame child position set to "no" it tiles windows
> the way as there's one more window. After alt+tab layout become correct. This
> bug occurs pretty rear and unlike two others is not annoying at all.
>
It's not annoying but not expected neither. I'll have a look. Maybe a
transient window handled and closed behind CLFSWM.

> At the moment, that's all the problems I have experienced with CLFSWM.
>
Ok, thanks a lot for the report. The release is reported when those
problems were fixed.

> Regards,
>
Best regards,

Philippe


> Ales.
>
> 07.09.2012 0:30 ???????????? "Philippe Brochard" <pbrochard at common-lisp.net>
> ???????:
>
>     Hi everybody,
>
>     I'm about to release a new CLFSWM version this week-end. Have you
>     anything to report before?
>     Recently, I have closed a bug caused by the new Gimp comportment
>     (hiding the main window hide also the dialog window. So the screen
>     flickers because CLFSWM is optimized to hide unseen windows).
>
>     There is also a new contrib/wallpaper.lisp file in contrib which allow
>     different wallpapers on each screen heads. Maybe you can find this
>     useful.
>
>     Thanks for any remarks,
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Philippe
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     clfswm-devel mailing list
>     clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>     http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
> _______________________________________________
> clfswm-devel mailing list
> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel



From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Sun Sep  9 20:47:05 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:47:05 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] New CLFSWM version planned for this week-end.
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-3hWHpU_yiibJhRrRNRH_mDn6N4Km_Ge68OnQQ0WCZXbA@mail.gmail.com>
	(Ales Guzik's message of "Fri, 7 Sep 2012 01:17:09 +0300")
References: <871uiergac.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<CADT2y-3hWHpU_yiibJhRrRNRH_mDn6N4Km_Ge68OnQQ0WCZXbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87ehmaly9i.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Ales Guzik writes:

> Hi Philippe,
>
Hi,

> Some time ago something had changed and now if I press alt+t and immediately
> follow it by some key (e.g. t to open terminal) before "second mode" label
> appear in rectangle, this key "falls through" and is received by current child.
> For example current child is gmail opened in firefox, I want to launch
> something, rapidly type alt+t ! and get current mail marked as spam instead of
> getting command execution prompt.
>
I have added some unneeded 'with-xlib-protect' in a commit. I've removed
some of them. So CLFSWM is more reactive. Please, test the last commit
(246b817). If this is not enough, we can change the way events are
handled and revert to hash table instead of symbol mapped. So the mode
switch will be faster.


> Also there is a minor problem with skype: when you open contact details window,
> then close it by either pressing escape or ctrl-esc s, you can no longer open
> it neither for this contact nor for any other. Also I had same problem with
> chat windows in previous skype versions - if you close chat with someone, you
> can't open it without skype restart.
>
This is fixed in the commit 246b817. Thanks a lot for the report. Skype
is the first application with this bug. But as I don't use it...

> Also sometimes if I open 2 or more windows in a frame and select tile top or
> tile right layout with keep frame child position set to "no" it tiles windows
> the way as there's one more window. After alt+tab layout become correct. This
> bug occurs pretty rear and unlike two others is not annoying at all.
>
I got this sometimes, I'll try to spot some application which cause the
problem each time. I know that sometimes Emacs do.

> At the moment, that's all the problems I have experienced with CLFSWM.
>
Many thanks for the reports! As already said, they are very important!

> Regards,
>
Regards,

> Ales.
>
Philippe

> 07.09.2012 0:30 ???????????? "Philippe Brochard" <pbrochard at common-lisp.net>
> ???????:
>
>     Hi everybody,
>
>     I'm about to release a new CLFSWM version this week-end. Have you
>     anything to report before?
>     Recently, I have closed a bug caused by the new Gimp comportment
>     (hiding the main window hide also the dialog window. So the screen
>     flickers because CLFSWM is optimized to hide unseen windows).
>
>     There is also a new contrib/wallpaper.lisp file in contrib which allow
>     different wallpapers on each screen heads. Maybe you can find this
>     useful.
>
>     Thanks for any remarks,
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Philippe
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     clfswm-devel mailing list
>     clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>     http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
> _______________________________________________
> clfswm-devel mailing list
> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel



From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Sun Sep 16 11:32:19 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:32:19 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] New CLFSWM version planned for this week-end.
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-3hWHpU_yiibJhRrRNRH_mDn6N4Km_Ge68OnQQ0WCZXbA@mail.gmail.com>
	(Ales Guzik's message of "Fri, 7 Sep 2012 01:17:09 +0300")
References: <871uiergac.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<CADT2y-3hWHpU_yiibJhRrRNRH_mDn6N4Km_Ge68OnQQ0WCZXbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87fw6ip5j0.fsf@common-lisp.net>

So, can we go for a new version?

Regards,

Philippe

Ales Guzik writes:

> Hi Philippe,
>
> Some time ago something had changed and now if I press alt+t and immediately
> follow it by some key (e.g. t to open terminal) before "second mode" label
> appear in rectangle, this key "falls through" and is received by current child.
> For example current child is gmail opened in firefox, I want to launch
> something, rapidly type alt+t ! and get current mail marked as spam instead of
> getting command execution prompt.
>
> Also there is a minor problem with skype: when you open contact details window,
> then close it by either pressing escape or ctrl-esc s, you can no longer open
> it neither for this contact nor for any other. Also I had same problem with
> chat windows in previous skype versions - if you close chat with someone, you
> can't open it without skype restart.
>
> Also sometimes if I open 2 or more windows in a frame and select tile top or
> tile right layout with keep frame child position set to "no" it tiles windows
> the way as there's one more window. After alt+tab layout become correct. This
> bug occurs pretty rear and unlike two others is not annoying at all.
>
> At the moment, that's all the problems I have experienced with CLFSWM.
>
> Regards,
> Ales.
>
> 07.09.2012 0:30 ???????????? "Philippe Brochard" <pbrochard at common-lisp.net>
> ???????:
>
>     Hi everybody,
>
>     I'm about to release a new CLFSWM version this week-end. Have you
>     anything to report before?
>     Recently, I have closed a bug caused by the new Gimp comportment
>     (hiding the main window hide also the dialog window. So the screen
>     flickers because CLFSWM is optimized to hide unseen windows).
>
>     There is also a new contrib/wallpaper.lisp file in contrib which allow
>     different wallpapers on each screen heads. Maybe you can find this
>     useful.
>
>     Thanks for any remarks,
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Philippe
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     clfswm-devel mailing list
>     clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>     http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
> _______________________________________________
> clfswm-devel mailing list
> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel



From ales.guzik at gmail.com  Sun Sep 16 12:52:43 2012
From: ales.guzik at gmail.com (Ales Guzik)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:52:43 +0300
Subject: [clfswm-devel] New CLFSWM version planned for this week-end.
In-Reply-To: <87fw6ip5j0.fsf@common-lisp.net>
References: <871uiergac.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<CADT2y-3hWHpU_yiibJhRrRNRH_mDn6N4Km_Ge68OnQQ0WCZXbA@mail.gmail.com>
	<87fw6ip5j0.fsf@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <CADT2y-3=K6rD8FLDRs_OiW-xOMNvCtBL4P6XhT_gjmr8c9wjsw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

About issue 1 it's better but still persist. Try to start Firefox with lots
of tabs opened and try to run something by M-t ! . Is it possible to change
second mode so it waits for keyboard input at early initialization stage?

Confirm 2 fixed.

Also recently I got clfswm freezes when starting libreoffice. But this
needs some more investigation.

If not mind this last issue, overall it's pretty good and release-ready.

Regards,
Ales

16.09.2012 14:32 ???????????? "Philippe Brochard" <pbrochard at common-lisp.net>
???????:
>
> So, can we go for a new version?
>
> Regards,
>
> Philippe
>
> Ales Guzik writes:
>
> > Hi Philippe,
> >
> > Some time ago something had changed and now if I press alt+t and
immediately
> > follow it by some key (e.g. t to open terminal) before "second mode"
label
> > appear in rectangle, this key "falls through" and is received by
current child.
> > For example current child is gmail opened in firefox, I want to launch
> > something, rapidly type alt+t ! and get current mail marked as spam
instead of
> > getting command execution prompt.
> >
> > Also there is a minor problem with skype: when you open contact details
window,
> > then close it by either pressing escape or ctrl-esc s, you can no
longer open
> > it neither for this contact nor for any other. Also I had same problem
with
> > chat windows in previous skype versions - if you close chat with
someone, you
> > can't open it without skype restart.
> >
> > Also sometimes if I open 2 or more windows in a frame and select tile
top or
> > tile right layout with keep frame child position set to "no" it tiles
windows
> > the way as there's one more window. After alt+tab layout become
correct. This
> > bug occurs pretty rear and unlike two others is not annoying at all.
> >
> > At the moment, that's all the problems I have experienced with CLFSWM.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ales.
> >
> > 07.09.2012 0:30 ???????????? "Philippe Brochard" <
pbrochard at common-lisp.net>
> > ???????:
> >
> >     Hi everybody,
> >
> >     I'm about to release a new CLFSWM version this week-end. Have you
> >     anything to report before?
> >     Recently, I have closed a bug caused by the new Gimp comportment
> >     (hiding the main window hide also the dialog window. So the screen
> >     flickers because CLFSWM is optimized to hide unseen windows).
> >
> >     There is also a new contrib/wallpaper.lisp file in contrib which
allow
> >     different wallpapers on each screen heads. Maybe you can find this
> >     useful.
> >
> >     Thanks for any remarks,
> >
> >     Best regards,
> >
> >     Philippe
> >
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     clfswm-devel mailing list
> >     clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> >     http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > clfswm-devel mailing list
> > clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> > http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
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From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Sun Sep 16 13:15:51 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:15:51 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] New CLFSWM version planned for this week-end.
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-3=K6rD8FLDRs_OiW-xOMNvCtBL4P6XhT_gjmr8c9wjsw@mail.gmail.com>
	(Ales Guzik's message of "Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:52:43 +0300")
References: <871uiergac.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<CADT2y-3hWHpU_yiibJhRrRNRH_mDn6N4Km_Ge68OnQQ0WCZXbA@mail.gmail.com>
	<87fw6ip5j0.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<CADT2y-3=K6rD8FLDRs_OiW-xOMNvCtBL4P6XhT_gjmr8c9wjsw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <877grup0qg.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Ales Guzik writes:

> Hi.
>
> About issue 1 it's better but still persist. Try to start Firefox with lots of
> tabs opened and try to run something by M-t ! . Is it possible to change second
> mode so it waits for keyboard input at early initialization stage?
>
Yes, it seems that clfswm is not very responsive when the system is very
loaded. I need to make some metering to see where the problem is. It's
not in the association of X keywords since this takes only 3ms on my system.

> Confirm 2 fixed.
>
Ok, thanks.

> Also recently I got clfswm freezes when starting libreoffice. But this needs
> some more investigation.
>
Please, try the very last commit (0a9742d). I've removed an important
line in the previous commit (0f99956) and restored it in the commit
0a9742d.

> If not mind this last issue, overall it's pretty good and release-ready.
>
Ok, so let's go.

> Regards,
>
Cheers,

> Ales
>
Philippe

> 16.09.2012 14:32 ???????????? "Philippe Brochard" <pbrochard at common-lisp.net>
> ???????:
>>
>> So, can we go for a new version?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>> Ales Guzik writes:
>>
>> > Hi Philippe,
>> >
>> > Some time ago something had changed and now if I press alt+t and
> immediately
>> > follow it by some key (e.g. t to open terminal) before "second mode" label
>> > appear in rectangle, this key "falls through" and is received by current
> child.
>> > For example current child is gmail opened in firefox, I want to launch
>> > something, rapidly type alt+t ! and get current mail marked as spam instead
> of
>> > getting command execution prompt.
>> >
>> > Also there is a minor problem with skype: when you open contact details
> window,
>> > then close it by either pressing escape or ctrl-esc s, you can no longer
> open
>> > it neither for this contact nor for any other. Also I had same problem with
>> > chat windows in previous skype versions - if you close chat with someone,
> you
>> > can't open it without skype restart.
>> >
>> > Also sometimes if I open 2 or more windows in a frame and select tile top
> or
>> > tile right layout with keep frame child position set to "no" it tiles
> windows
>> > the way as there's one more window. After alt+tab layout become correct.
> This
>> > bug occurs pretty rear and unlike two others is not annoying at all.
>> >
>> > At the moment, that's all the problems I have experienced with CLFSWM.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Ales.
>> >
>> > 07.09.2012 0:30 ???????????? "Philippe Brochard" <pbrochard at common-lisp.net
>>
>> > ???????:
>> >
>> > ? ? Hi everybody,
>> >
>> > ? ? I'm about to release a new CLFSWM version this week-end. Have you
>> > ? ? anything to report before?
>> > ? ? Recently, I have closed a bug caused by the new Gimp comportment
>> > ? ? (hiding the main window hide also the dialog window. So the screen
>> > ? ? flickers because CLFSWM is optimized to hide unseen windows).
>> >
>> > ? ? There is also a new contrib/wallpaper.lisp file in contrib which allow
>> > ? ? different wallpapers on each screen heads. Maybe you can find this
>> > ? ? useful.
>> >
>> > ? ? Thanks for any remarks,
>> >
>> > ? ? Best regards,
>> >
>> > ? ? Philippe
>> >
>> > ? ? _______________________________________________
>> > ? ? clfswm-devel mailing list
>> > ? ? clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>> > ? ? http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > clfswm-devel mailing list
>> > clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>> > http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> clfswm-devel mailing list
>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
> _______________________________________________
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From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Fri Sep 21 21:49:49 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:49:49 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] CLFSWM 1209 is out
Message-ID: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Hi all,

As said in the previous weeks, there is a new CLFSWM release tagged
R-1209.
Since the last official release R-1106, changes are as follow:

  - Transparency support with xcompmgr
  
  - Multi heads support out of the box (no more need for individual
    hack). There is some new key bindings to circulate through root (ie:
    screen). 
    
  - New Expos? Mode which support infinite children (previously 26) and
    multiple roots.
  
  - Better X Errors handling.

Also, there is some new modules in the contrib directory:

  - contrib/toolbar.lisp to display toolbars everywhere. They can be
    clickable, hidden on click or with pointer motion.
  
  - contrib/wallpaper.lisp to display different wallpaper on different
    screen. 

More information can be found at http://common-lisp.net/project/clfswm/

As always, thanks a lot for any patch, feedback or request!

Best regards and have fun,

Philippe



From michael at cadilhac.name  Fri Sep 21 23:32:02 2012
From: michael at cadilhac.name (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_Cadilhac?=)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:32:02 -0400
Subject: [clfswm-devel] CLFSWM 1209 is out
In-Reply-To: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>
References: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <CADt3fpM+LKhLWoEdSJrOyT8ZqDTrZt4ZUvLZmrMpDmNpQcS0iw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Philippe Brochard
<pbrochard at common-lisp.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As said in the previous weeks, there is a new CLFSWM release tagged
> R-1209.
> Since the last official release R-1106, changes are as follow:
>
>   - Transparency support with xcompmgr
>
>   - Multi heads support out of the box (no more need for individual
>     hack). There is some new key bindings to circulate through root (ie:
>     screen).
>
>   - New Expos? Mode which support infinite children (previously 26) and
>     multiple roots.
>
>   - Better X Errors handling.
>
> Also, there is some new modules in the contrib directory:
>
>   - contrib/toolbar.lisp to display toolbars everywhere. They can be
>     clickable, hidden on click or with pointer motion.
>
>   - contrib/wallpaper.lisp to display different wallpaper on different
>     screen.
>
> More information can be found at http://common-lisp.net/project/clfswm/
>
> As always, thanks a lot for any patch, feedback or request!
>
> Best regards and have fun,

Congrats!  I'll try this out. :)



From z_axis at 163.com  Sat Sep 22 01:35:41 2012
From: z_axis at 163.com (z_axis)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:35:41 +0800
Subject: [clfswm-devel] CLFSWM 1209 is out
In-Reply-To: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>
References: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <op.wk0j1sks1uofcn@redirector.netnames.net>

Can clfswm be built using ECL ? I have successfully built stumpwm using  
ECL but stumpwm cannot start.

? Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:49:49 +0800?Philippe Brochard  
<pbrochard at common-lisp.net> ??:

> Hi all,
>
> As said in the previous weeks, there is a new CLFSWM release tagged
> R-1209.
> Since the last official release R-1106, changes are as follow:
>
>   - Transparency support with xcompmgr
>  - Multi heads support out of the box (no more need for individual
>     hack). There is some new key bindings to circulate through root (ie:
>     screen).
>  - New Expos? Mode which support infinite children (previously 26) and
>     multiple roots.
>  - Better X Errors handling.
>
> Also, there is some new modules in the contrib directory:
>
>   - contrib/toolbar.lisp to display toolbars everywhere. They can be
>     clickable, hidden on click or with pointer motion.
>  - contrib/wallpaper.lisp to display different wallpaper on different
>     screen.
>
> More information can be found at http://common-lisp.net/project/clfswm/
>
> As always, thanks a lot for any patch, feedback or request!
>
> Best regards and have fun,
>
> Philippe
>
> _______________________________________________
> clfswm-devel mailing list
> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel


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From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Sat Sep 22 06:54:24 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:54:24 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] CLFSWM 1209 is out
In-Reply-To: <op.wk0j1sks1uofcn@redirector.netnames.net> (z. axis's message of
	"Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:35:41 +0800")
References: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<op.wk0j1sks1uofcn@redirector.netnames.net>
Message-ID: <877grmmtsv.fsf@common-lisp.net>

z. axis writes:

Hi,

> Can clfswm be built using ECL ? I have successfully built stumpwm
> using ECL but stumpwm cannot start.
>
I have been able to build clfswm with ecl with its own asdf and clx. But
it's somewhat slow and not very responsive. This is something to fix
for the next release!
BTW, clfswm works fine here with clisp, cmucl, sbcl and ccl. I don't see
why ecl is so specific.

Regards,

Philippe

> ? Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:49:49 +0800?Philippe Brochard
> <pbrochard at common-lisp.net> ??:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As said in the previous weeks, there is a new CLFSWM release tagged
>> R-1209.
>> Since the last official release R-1106, changes are as follow:
>>
>>   - Transparency support with xcompmgr
>>  - Multi heads support out of the box (no more need for individual
>>     hack). There is some new key bindings to circulate through root (ie:
>>     screen).
>>  - New Expos? Mode which support infinite children (previously 26) and
>>     multiple roots.
>>  - Better X Errors handling.
>>
>> Also, there is some new modules in the contrib directory:
>>
>>   - contrib/toolbar.lisp to display toolbars everywhere. They can be
>>     clickable, hidden on click or with pointer motion.
>>  - contrib/wallpaper.lisp to display different wallpaper on different
>>     screen.
>>
>> More information can be found at http://common-lisp.net/project/clfswm/
>>
>> As always, thanks a lot for any patch, feedback or request!
>>
>> Best regards and have fun,
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> clfswm-devel mailing list
>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
>
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From z_axis at 163.com  Sat Sep 22 07:24:38 2012
From: z_axis at 163.com (z_axis)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:24:38 +0800
Subject: [clfswm-devel] CLFSWM 1209 is out
In-Reply-To: <877grmmtsv.fsf@common-lisp.net>
References: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<op.wk0j1sks1uofcn@redirector.netnames.net>
	<877grmmtsv.fsf@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <op.wk0z7cu81uofcn@redirector.netnames.net>

The ECL produces 1/10 size of SBCL's executable.  The stumpwm created by  
SBCL is about 40M and ECL's executable is about 4M.


? Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:54:24 +0800?Philippe Brochard  
<pbrochard at common-lisp.net> ??:

> z. axis writes:
>
> Hi,
>
>> Can clfswm be built using ECL ? I have successfully built stumpwm
>> using ECL but stumpwm cannot start.
>>
> I have been able to build clfswm with ecl with its own asdf and clx. But
> it's somewhat slow and not very responsive. This is something to fix
> for the next release!
> BTW, clfswm works fine here with clisp, cmucl, sbcl and ccl. I don't see
> why ecl is so specific.
>
> Regards,
>
> Philippe
>
>> ? Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:49:49 +0800?Philippe Brochard
>> <pbrochard at common-lisp.net> ??:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As said in the previous weeks, there is a new CLFSWM release tagged
>>> R-1209.
>>> Since the last official release R-1106, changes are as follow:
>>>
>>>   - Transparency support with xcompmgr
>>>  - Multi heads support out of the box (no more need for individual
>>>     hack). There is some new key bindings to circulate through root  
>>> (ie:
>>>     screen).
>>>  - New Expos? Mode which support infinite children (previously 26) and
>>>     multiple roots.
>>>  - Better X Errors handling.
>>>
>>> Also, there is some new modules in the contrib directory:
>>>
>>>   - contrib/toolbar.lisp to display toolbars everywhere. They can be
>>>     clickable, hidden on click or with pointer motion.
>>>  - contrib/wallpaper.lisp to display different wallpaper on different
>>>     screen.
>>>
>>> More information can be found at http://common-lisp.net/project/clfswm/
>>>
>>> As always, thanks a lot for any patch, feedback or request!
>>>
>>> Best regards and have fun,
>>>
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> clfswm-devel mailing list
>>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
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> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
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From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Sat Sep 22 08:01:08 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:01:08 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] CLFSWM 1209 is out
In-Reply-To: <op.wk0z7cu81uofcn@redirector.netnames.net> (z. axis's message of
	"Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:24:38 +0800")
References: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<op.wk0j1sks1uofcn@redirector.netnames.net>
	<877grmmtsv.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<op.wk0z7cu81uofcn@redirector.netnames.net>
Message-ID: <877grmh4fv.fsf@common-lisp.net>

z. axis writes:

> The ECL produces 1/10 size of SBCL's executable.  The stumpwm created
> by SBCL is about 40M and ECL's executable is about 4M.
>
Yes, this is a great advantage. And I'd like to see CLFSWM running with
ECL too.
But with the sentence "I don't see why ecl is so specific." I mean I
don't see what is so different in the CLX build with ECL to not run
CLFSWM.

>
> ? Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:54:24 +0800?Philippe Brochard
> <pbrochard at common-lisp.net> ??:
>
>> z. axis writes:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Can clfswm be built using ECL ? I have successfully built stumpwm
>>> using ECL but stumpwm cannot start.
>>>
>> I have been able to build clfswm with ecl with its own asdf and clx. But
>> it's somewhat slow and not very responsive. This is something to fix
>> for the next release!
>> BTW, clfswm works fine here with clisp, cmucl, sbcl and ccl. I don't see
>> why ecl is so specific.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>>> ? Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:49:49 +0800?Philippe Brochard
>>> <pbrochard at common-lisp.net> ??:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> As said in the previous weeks, there is a new CLFSWM release tagged
>>>> R-1209.
>>>> Since the last official release R-1106, changes are as follow:
>>>>
>>>>   - Transparency support with xcompmgr
>>>>  - Multi heads support out of the box (no more need for individual
>>>>     hack). There is some new key bindings to circulate through
>>>> root (ie:
>>>>     screen).
>>>>  - New Expos? Mode which support infinite children (previously 26) and
>>>>     multiple roots.
>>>>  - Better X Errors handling.
>>>>
>>>> Also, there is some new modules in the contrib directory:
>>>>
>>>>   - contrib/toolbar.lisp to display toolbars everywhere. They can be
>>>>     clickable, hidden on click or with pointer motion.
>>>>  - contrib/wallpaper.lisp to display different wallpaper on different
>>>>     screen.
>>>>
>>>> More information can be found at http://common-lisp.net/project/clfswm/
>>>>
>>>> As always, thanks a lot for any patch, feedback or request!
>>>>
>>>> Best regards and have fun,
>>>>
>>>> Philippe
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> clfswm-devel mailing list
>>>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>>>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>>
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>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
>
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From z_axis at 163.com  Sat Sep 22 08:23:19 2012
From: z_axis at 163.com (z_axis)
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:23:19 +0800
Subject: [clfswm-devel] CLFSWM 1209 is out
In-Reply-To: <877grmh4fv.fsf@common-lisp.net>
References: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<op.wk0j1sks1uofcn@redirector.netnames.net>
	<877grmmtsv.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<op.wk0z7cu81uofcn@redirector.netnames.net>
	<877grmh4fv.fsf@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <op.wk02w5gb1uofcn@redirector.netnames.net>

I donot know why ?  because the ECL created stumpwm cannot start !
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12443955/the-ecl-created-stumpwm-cannot-work

? Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:01:08 +0800?Philippe Brochard  
<pbrochard at common-lisp.net> ??:

> z. axis writes:
>
>> The ECL produces 1/10 size of SBCL's executable.  The stumpwm created
>> by SBCL is about 40M and ECL's executable is about 4M.
>>
> Yes, this is a great advantage. And I'd like to see CLFSWM running with
> ECL too.
> But with the sentence "I don't see why ecl is so specific." I mean I
> don't see what is so different in the CLX build with ECL to not run
> CLFSWM.
>
>>
>> ? Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:54:24 +0800?Philippe Brochard
>> <pbrochard at common-lisp.net> ??:
>>
>>> z. axis writes:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> Can clfswm be built using ECL ? I have successfully built stumpwm
>>>> using ECL but stumpwm cannot start.
>>>>
>>> I have been able to build clfswm with ecl with its own asdf and clx.  
>>> But
>>> it's somewhat slow and not very responsive. This is something to fix
>>> for the next release!
>>> BTW, clfswm works fine here with clisp, cmucl, sbcl and ccl. I don't  
>>> see
>>> why ecl is so specific.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>>> ? Sat, 22 Sep 2012 05:49:49 +0800?Philippe Brochard
>>>> <pbrochard at common-lisp.net> ??:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> As said in the previous weeks, there is a new CLFSWM release tagged
>>>>> R-1209.
>>>>> Since the last official release R-1106, changes are as follow:
>>>>>
>>>>>   - Transparency support with xcompmgr
>>>>>  - Multi heads support out of the box (no more need for individual
>>>>>     hack). There is some new key bindings to circulate through
>>>>> root (ie:
>>>>>     screen).
>>>>>  - New Expos? Mode which support infinite children (previously 26)  
>>>>> and
>>>>>     multiple roots.
>>>>>  - Better X Errors handling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, there is some new modules in the contrib directory:
>>>>>
>>>>>   - contrib/toolbar.lisp to display toolbars everywhere. They can be
>>>>>     clickable, hidden on click or with pointer motion.
>>>>>  - contrib/wallpaper.lisp to display different wallpaper on different
>>>>>     screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> More information can be found at  
>>>>> http://common-lisp.net/project/clfswm/
>>>>>
>>>>> As always, thanks a lot for any patch, feedback or request!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards and have fun,
>>>>>
>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> clfswm-devel mailing list
>>>>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>>>>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
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From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Sun Sep 23 15:25:11 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:25:11 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] CLFSWM 1209 is out
In-Reply-To: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net> (Philippe Brochard's message of
	"Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:49:49 +0200")
References: <878vc359mq.fsf@common-lisp.net>
Message-ID: <87wqzkrcbs.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Hi again,

I've spotted a serious bug just after the 1209 release. CLFSWM is not
ICCCM compliant(1) and send a fake configure notify event to windows
when they're configured but this should happen only when they're moved,
not when they're resized... It's a cause of clfswm freeze and stumpwm
has it potentially also (I'll tell this to the stumpwm team).

So I've made 1209.2 version with this update since I think it's very
important.

Best regards,

Philippe

(1) http://tronche.com/gui/x/icccm/sec-4.html#s-4.1.5



Philippe Brochard writes:

> Hi all,
>
> As said in the previous weeks, there is a new CLFSWM release tagged
> R-1209.
> Since the last official release R-1106, changes are as follow:
>
>   - Transparency support with xcompmgr
>   
>   - Multi heads support out of the box (no more need for individual
>     hack). There is some new key bindings to circulate through root (ie:
>     screen). 
>     
>   - New Expos? Mode which support infinite children (previously 26) and
>     multiple roots.
>   
>   - Better X Errors handling.
>
> Also, there is some new modules in the contrib directory:
>
>   - contrib/toolbar.lisp to display toolbars everywhere. They can be
>     clickable, hidden on click or with pointer motion.
>   
>   - contrib/wallpaper.lisp to display different wallpaper on different
>     screen. 
>
> More information can be found at http://common-lisp.net/project/clfswm/
>
> As always, thanks a lot for any patch, feedback or request!
>
> Best regards and have fun,
>
> Philippe
>
> _______________________________________________
> clfswm-devel mailing list
> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel



From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Tue Sep 25 15:45:44 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:45:44 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] CLFSWM Wikipedia page.
Message-ID: <876272kswn.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Hi all,

There is a discussion at Wikipedia to delete the CLFSWM page. 

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clfswm

Since I'm the author of this page there is an obvious conflict of
interest.
If someone is interested to make the change. Feel free to participate.
We will be grateful.
On the other hand, never mind if nobody do it.

Best regards,

Philippe