From michael at cadilhac.name  Wed Apr 11 14:01:07 2012
From: michael at cadilhac.name (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_Cadilhac?=)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:01:07 -0400
Subject: [clfswm-devel] A toolbar displaying CPU usage, date, volume, ...
Message-ID: <CADt3fpMKXSPHoRSX=cJNmMMCd6_i2KsgMXwj6qKNVe_oTVwwUg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there everyone,

I'm contemplating switching from awesome to CLFSWM.  Since my days
with Ion, I got used to have a toolbar displaying a bunch of infos
(most importantly, time), so my question is: what is the way to go to
implement such a toolbar within CLFSWM?

On a side note, how the hell do you guys do without a time display?

Happy hacking,
M.



From ales.guzik at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 14:43:51 2012
From: ales.guzik at gmail.com (Ales Guzik)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:43:51 +0300
Subject: [clfswm-devel] A toolbar displaying CPU usage, date, volume, ...
In-Reply-To: <CADt3fpMKXSPHoRSX=cJNmMMCd6_i2KsgMXwj6qKNVe_oTVwwUg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADt3fpMKXSPHoRSX=cJNmMMCd6_i2KsgMXwj6qKNVe_oTVwwUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADT2y-35dSEaYAJ_1KbZx1hfcL1OtrBy7QPs9g45JbH258Fr=w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Micha?l.

Personally I used conky for this kind of things. You may place it
somewhere at the top and redefine get-fullscreen-size in your
.clfswmrc to match area you want to be used for windows placement
(get-fullscreen-size is defined in config.lisp).

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Micha?l Cadilhac <michael at cadilhac.name> wrote:
> Hi there everyone,
>
> I'm contemplating switching from awesome to CLFSWM. ?Since my days
> with Ion, I got used to have a toolbar displaying a bunch of infos
> (most importantly, time), so my question is: what is the way to go to
> implement such a toolbar within CLFSWM?
>
> On a side note, how the hell do you guys do without a time display?
>
> Happy hacking,
> M.
>
> _______________________________________________
> clfswm-devel mailing list
> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel



-- 
Regards,
Ales Guzik
------------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: ales.guzik at gmail.com
skype: ales-guzik
tel: +375 29 5751103



From ales.guzik at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 14:49:41 2012
From: ales.guzik at gmail.com (Ales Guzik)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:49:41 +0300
Subject: [clfswm-devel] A toolbar displaying CPU usage, date, volume, ...
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-35dSEaYAJ_1KbZx1hfcL1OtrBy7QPs9g45JbH258Fr=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADt3fpMKXSPHoRSX=cJNmMMCd6_i2KsgMXwj6qKNVe_oTVwwUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADT2y-35dSEaYAJ_1KbZx1hfcL1OtrBy7QPs9g45JbH258Fr=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADT2y-0D3qekRS3Ug54j14goa+pK_K0xHEUu659uNnABKbNTZg@mail.gmail.com>

Actually window manager is thing that manages windows. It seems
logical to use something that displays information to display
information.
And about time, I just set my zsh to display current time with every prompt.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Ales Guzik <ales.guzik at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Micha?l.
>
> Personally I used conky for this kind of things. You may place it
> somewhere at the top and redefine get-fullscreen-size in your
> .clfswmrc to match area you want to be used for windows placement
> (get-fullscreen-size is defined in config.lisp).
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Micha?l Cadilhac <michael at cadilhac.name> wrote:
>> Hi there everyone,
>>
>> I'm contemplating switching from awesome to CLFSWM. ?Since my days
>> with Ion, I got used to have a toolbar displaying a bunch of infos
>> (most importantly, time), so my question is: what is the way to go to
>> implement such a toolbar within CLFSWM?
>>
>> On a side note, how the hell do you guys do without a time display?
>>
>> Happy hacking,
>> M.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> clfswm-devel mailing list
>> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
>> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Ales Guzik
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> e-mail: ales.guzik at gmail.com
> skype: ales-guzik
> tel: +375 29 5751103



-- 
Regards,
Ales Guzik
------------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: ales.guzik at gmail.com
skype: ales-guzik
tel: +375 29 5751103



From michael at cadilhac.name  Wed Apr 11 16:26:03 2012
From: michael at cadilhac.name (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_Cadilhac?=)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:26:03 -0400
Subject: [clfswm-devel] A toolbar displaying CPU usage, date, volume, ...
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-0D3qekRS3Ug54j14goa+pK_K0xHEUu659uNnABKbNTZg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADt3fpMKXSPHoRSX=cJNmMMCd6_i2KsgMXwj6qKNVe_oTVwwUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADT2y-35dSEaYAJ_1KbZx1hfcL1OtrBy7QPs9g45JbH258Fr=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADT2y-0D3qekRS3Ug54j14goa+pK_K0xHEUu659uNnABKbNTZg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADt3fpPGJCvGoeE=wL3rK5EeA9TQN7XhE67Noe4_THEq6pLzVQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Ales Guzik <ales.guzik at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Micha?l Cadilhac <michael at cadilhac.name> wrote:
>> Hi there everyone,
>>
>> I'm contemplating switching from awesome to CLFSWM. ?Since my days
>> with Ion, I got used to have a toolbar displaying a bunch of infos
>> (most importantly, time), so my question is: what is the way to go to
>> implement such a toolbar within CLFSWM?
>>
>> On a side note, how the hell do you guys do without a time display?

> Personally I used conky for this kind of things.

Thanks, I'll give it a try.

> Actually window manager is thing that manages windows. It seems logical to
> use something that displays information to display information.

That's a good point, but it depends.  I use the bar to display lots of
WM-related informations; for instance, I want to display the list of windows
in the current frame, so I hope the communication between conky and CLFSWM?
is smooth.

> And about time, I just set my zsh to display current time with every prompt.

I do have that, and my Emacs has time too, but 1) I want a place where I'm
*sure* to find the time (top right corner, say) and 2) I don't want to tweak
each and every application I use (say, firefox) so that it displays the time.

Thanks again for the input, Ales.

M.

?: "CLFSWM" is a *pain* to write using dvorak layout.  You win this time,
	qwerty.



From ales.guzik at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 18:37:39 2012
From: ales.guzik at gmail.com (Ales Guzik)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:37:39 +0300
Subject: [clfswm-devel] A toolbar displaying CPU usage, date, volume, ...
In-Reply-To: <CADt3fpPGJCvGoeE=wL3rK5EeA9TQN7XhE67Noe4_THEq6pLzVQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADt3fpMKXSPHoRSX=cJNmMMCd6_i2KsgMXwj6qKNVe_oTVwwUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADT2y-35dSEaYAJ_1KbZx1hfcL1OtrBy7QPs9g45JbH258Fr=w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADT2y-0D3qekRS3Ug54j14goa+pK_K0xHEUu659uNnABKbNTZg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADt3fpPGJCvGoeE=wL3rK5EeA9TQN7XhE67Noe4_THEq6pLzVQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADT2y-2QpwrvTpZupG-kHh1_s=9QqJK_+4sO3K6svjiWxrpOVg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Micha?l Cadilhac <michael at cadilhac.name> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Ales Guzik <ales.guzik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Micha?l Cadilhac <michael at cadilhac.name> wrote:
>>> Hi there everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm contemplating switching from awesome to CLFSWM. ?Since my days
>>> with Ion, I got used to have a toolbar displaying a bunch of infos
>>> (most importantly, time), so my question is: what is the way to go to
>>> implement such a toolbar within CLFSWM?
>>>
>>> On a side note, how the hell do you guys do without a time display?
>
>> Personally I used conky for this kind of things.
>
> Thanks, I'll give it a try.
>
>> Actually window manager is thing that manages windows. It seems logical to
>> use something that displays information to display information.
>
> That's a good point, but it depends. ?I use the bar to display lots of
> WM-related informations; for instance, I want to display the list of windows
> in the current frame, so I hope the communication between conky and CLFSWM?
> is smooth.

If I understand you correctly, thing you want to see is shown by
Shift+F12. To additionnaly see child frames information just setup
transparency with xcompmgr.

>> And about time, I just set my zsh to display current time with every prompt.
>
> I do have that, and my Emacs has time too, but 1) I want a place where I'm
> *sure* to find the time (top right corner, say) and 2) I don't want to tweak
> each and every application I use (say, firefox) so that it displays the time.

There is CLFSWM terminal accessed by Ctrl+F12. I found it pretty usual
for me to press C-F12 <RET> to see time in top left corner, then C-F12
to hide terminal.

> Thanks again for the input, Ales.
>
> M.
>
> ?: "CLFSWM" is a *pain* to write using dvorak layout. ?You win this time,
> ? ? ? ?qwerty.

Keeping qwerty really slowers dvorak learning rate. First time I tried
to switch I kept both, and after some time found myself not using
dvorak at all. Second time I just dropped qwerty and used stickers
with letters to have no way back. Two weeks and I found myself as
comfort with dvorak as I was using qwerty.

> _______________________________________________
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> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel



-- 
Regards,
Ales Guzik
------------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: ales.guzik at gmail.com
skype: ales-guzik
tel: +375 29 5751103



From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Wed Apr 11 19:59:53 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:59:53 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] A toolbar displaying CPU usage, date, volume, ...
In-Reply-To: <CADt3fpMKXSPHoRSX=cJNmMMCd6_i2KsgMXwj6qKNVe_oTVwwUg@mail.gmail.com>
	(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Micha=EBl?= Cadilhac"'s message of "Wed, 11 Apr 2012
	10:01:07 -0400")
References: <CADt3fpMKXSPHoRSX=cJNmMMCd6_i2KsgMXwj6qKNVe_oTVwwUg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87pqbeyr7q.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Micha?l Cadilhac writes:

> Hi there everyone,
>
Hi, welcome on this list.

> I'm contemplating switching from awesome to CLFSWM.  Since my days
> with Ion, I got used to have a toolbar displaying a bunch of infos
> (most importantly, time), so my question is: what is the way to go to
> implement such a toolbar within CLFSWM?
>
You can have a look at open-notify-window in src/clfswm-util.lisp. 
It's what you need to create a new window and display something in
it. You can then play with timers to update its content.

Something like a modeline is very welcome in the contrib directory. I've
no time to implement it right now, but this is in my TODO list.

Right now, you can play with fbpanel or xmobar for example and adjust
the get-fullscreen-size function.

> On a side note, how the hell do you guys do without a time display?
>
I have always an emacs open with its modeline somewhere.
And as Ales said, you can use keys like Shift+F12 to show frames status,
Control+F12 to show/hide a terminal or Alt+F1+d (to show the current time).

We can think to add some information in the frame window accessible
with shift+F12 or make windows titles clickable to select them (with
control+shift+F12).

> Happy hacking,
>
Happy hacking too,

Regards,

Philippe



From michael at cadilhac.name  Thu Apr 12 04:36:06 2012
From: michael at cadilhac.name (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_Cadilhac?=)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:36:06 -0400
Subject: [clfswm-devel] Bug report: CLFSWM stuck when invoking nonexistent
	xvkbd.
Message-ID: <CADt3fpNGqLRvQWm3zTeO-u+dhB=BYCzzJwB1J__Vi3XE_7SH4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

When frantically clicking to see what CLFSWM is all about, I came across the
following bug:

Steps:
1.  Make sure you don't have xvkbd (this is the default ;-))
2.  Click on the upper right corner of the screen so as to invoke xvkbd.

Expected behavior:
Nothing should happen; no side effect should show up.  Maybe a dialog
complaining about the absence of xvkbd.

Actual behavior:
The mouse is rendered unusable (no click is sent).  The keyboard does not
control the WM any longer (e.g., M-t does nothing).

System:
CLFSWM version 1106 (I would have appreciated being able to get the version
with clfswm --version)
GNU CLISP 2.49
clisp-clx latest cvs version.

Don't hesitate to ask for more info if needed.  Sorry for the noise if this
has been fixed.

M.



From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Wed Apr 18 19:53:38 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:53:38 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] Bug report: CLFSWM stuck when invoking
	nonexistent xvkbd.
In-Reply-To: <CADt3fpNGqLRvQWm3zTeO-u+dhB=BYCzzJwB1J__Vi3XE_7SH4A@mail.gmail.com>
	(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Micha=EBl?= Cadilhac"'s message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2012
	00:36:06 -0400")
References: <CADt3fpNGqLRvQWm3zTeO-u+dhB=BYCzzJwB1J__Vi3XE_7SH4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87pqb4erzx.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Hi, thanks a lot for the bug report. It's fixed in the last
commit. Please, test.

Regards,

Philippe

Micha?l Cadilhac writes:

> Hi there,
>
> When frantically clicking to see what CLFSWM is all about, I came across the
> following bug:
>
> Steps:
> 1.  Make sure you don't have xvkbd (this is the default ;-))
> 2.  Click on the upper right corner of the screen so as to invoke xvkbd.
>
> Expected behavior:
> Nothing should happen; no side effect should show up.  Maybe a dialog
> complaining about the absence of xvkbd.
>
> Actual behavior:
> The mouse is rendered unusable (no click is sent).  The keyboard does not
> control the WM any longer (e.g., M-t does nothing).
>
> System:
> CLFSWM version 1106 (I would have appreciated being able to get the version
> with clfswm --version)
> GNU CLISP 2.49
> clisp-clx latest cvs version.
>
> Don't hesitate to ask for more info if needed.  Sorry for the noise if this
> has been fixed.
>
> M.
>
> _______________________________________________
> clfswm-devel mailing list
> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel



From ales.guzik at gmail.com  Thu Apr 19 12:01:27 2012
From: ales.guzik at gmail.com (Ales Guzik)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:01:27 +0300
Subject: [clfswm-devel] Bug report: freeze, constantly throwing errors
Message-ID: <CADT2y-0k9_oJtTecRPiJOzSFk=eJQfmtfEy_LM8xj5WQ5GnZ+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Sometimes (pretty often) CLFSWM freezes, infinitely writing error
messages (log attached, you may see 3 such messages at the top)

CLFSWM is built via
    SBCL_HOME='' sbcl --eval "(require 'clfswm)" --eval
'(sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die "clfswm.core" :executable t)'
and started as
    clfswm.core --eval "(clfswm:main)" --non-interactive

Distro: Archlinux

$ uname -a
Linux laptop.aguzik.net 3.3.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Apr 14
09:48:37 CEST 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2760QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

$ Xorg -version
X.Org X Server 1.12.1
Release Date: 2012-04-13
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 3.3.1-1-ARCH x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux laptop.aguzik.net 3.3.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP
PREEMPT Sat Apr 14 09:48:37 CEST 2012 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-linux
root=/dev/disk/by-label/ROOT_ARCH
rootflags=,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered rootfstype=ext4
ro add_efi_memmap
Build Date: 14 April 2012  07:09:45AM

Current version of pixman: 0.24.4
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.

$ ls ~/quicklisp/dists/quicklisp/software/ |grep clx
clx-20111203-git

$ cat ~/quicklisp/local-projects/clfswm/.git/refs/heads/master
8f23f83012bba1b87afea860370fd5eaed2e869c

-- 
Regards,
Ales Guzik
------------------------------------------------------------
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From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Sat Apr 21 21:01:31 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 23:01:31 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] Bug report: freeze, constantly throwing errors
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-0k9_oJtTecRPiJOzSFk=eJQfmtfEy_LM8xj5WQ5GnZ+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	(Ales Guzik's message of "Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:01:27 +0300")
References: <CADT2y-0k9_oJtTecRPiJOzSFk=eJQfmtfEy_LM8xj5WQ5GnZ+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87sjfw4x5g.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Ales Guzik writes:

> Hello,
>
Hi,

> Sometimes (pretty often) CLFSWM freezes, infinitely writing error
> messages (log attached, you may see 3 such messages at the top)
>
When does this occurs? With which applications? Do you do something
special before the crash?

The first thing to try is to use the 'main-unprotected' function to
display a more explicit message (and stop after the first error).
Start clfswm with:

$ clfswm.core --eval "(clfswm::main-unprotected)" --non-interactive

And share the output on the list.

Regards,

Philippe

[...Useful infos...]




From ales.guzik at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 06:42:41 2012
From: ales.guzik at gmail.com (Ales Guzik)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:42:41 +0300
Subject: [clfswm-devel] Bug report: freeze, constantly throwing errors
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-0erpD5AT9x7DDPzgX7P=4dgYr0SV1Vc=jH3KYXuoaqvQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADT2y-0k9_oJtTecRPiJOzSFk=eJQfmtfEy_LM8xj5WQ5GnZ+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<87sjfw4x5g.fsf@common-lisp.net>
	<CADT2y-0erpD5AT9x7DDPzgX7P=4dgYr0SV1Vc=jH3KYXuoaqvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADT2y-38CY_2vRhMPEVxwM=azY4FvjNpUF5gM4YXCygMnT4K0A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Philippe Brochard
<pbrochard at common-lisp.net> wrote:
> Ales Guzik writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
> Hi,
>
>> Sometimes (pretty often) CLFSWM freezes, infinitely writing error
>> messages (log attached, you may see 3 such messages at the top)
>>
> When does this occurs? With which applications? Do you do something
> special before the crash?

It occurs pretty randomly. Daily I use pretty limited set of gui
applications - just firefox, emacs, xterm, skype and thunderbird. In
moment of crash everything just slows down and clfswm keys does not
work. (running via main-unprotected prevents slowdown, clfswm just
terminates)

> The first thing to try is to use the 'main-unprotected' function to
> display a more explicit message (and stop after the first error).
> Start clfswm with:
>
> $ clfswm.core --eval "(clfswm::main-unprotected)" --non-interactive
>
> And share the output on the list.

Logs attached.

> Regards,
>
> Philippe
>
> [...Useful infos...]
>
>
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> clfswm-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://lists.common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clfswm-devel

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------------------------------------------------------------
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From michael at cadilhac.name  Sat Apr 28 03:07:13 2012
From: michael at cadilhac.name (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_Cadilhac?=)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:07:13 -0400
Subject: [clfswm-devel] Bug report: freeze, constantly throwing errors
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-0k9_oJtTecRPiJOzSFk=eJQfmtfEy_LM8xj5WQ5GnZ+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADT2y-0k9_oJtTecRPiJOzSFk=eJQfmtfEy_LM8xj5WQ5GnZ+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADt3fpNLJgo9JbqZ-h10mRQXX0WYToP1ty_dEHzpko6iDO5kcg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Ales Guzik <ales.guzik at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sometimes (pretty often) CLFSWM freezes, infinitely writing error
> messages

FWIW, I stopped experimenting with CLFSWM because of those freezes.
I'd gladly try out the latest version once a fix has been found.

Cheers,
M.



From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Sat Apr 28 22:25:59 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:25:59 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] Bug report: freeze, constantly throwing errors
In-Reply-To: <CADT2y-38CY_2vRhMPEVxwM=azY4FvjNpUF5gM4YXCygMnT4K0A@mail.gmail.com>
	(Ales Guzik's message of "Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:42:41 +0300")
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Ales Guzik writes:

> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Philippe Brochard
> <pbrochard at common-lisp.net> wrote:
>> Ales Guzik writes:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Sometimes (pretty often) CLFSWM freezes, infinitely writing error
>>> messages (log attached, you may see 3 such messages at the top)
>>>
>> When does this occurs? With which applications? Do you do something
>> special before the crash?
>
> It occurs pretty randomly. Daily I use pretty limited set of gui
> applications - just firefox, emacs, xterm, skype and thunderbird. In
> moment of crash everything just slows down and clfswm keys does not
> work. (running via main-unprotected prevents slowdown, clfswm just
> terminates)
>
Ok, thanks for those details. 

>> The first thing to try is to use the 'main-unprotected' function to
>> display a more explicit message (and stop after the first error).
>> Start clfswm with:
>>
>> $ clfswm.core --eval "(clfswm::main-unprotected)" --non-interactive
>>
>> And share the output on the list.
>
> Logs attached.
>
Thanks. I suspect an Xlib problem. I test clfswm with sbcl with another
(old) xlib version (darcs get http://common-lisp.net/~crhodes/clx).
I'll switch to the new git fork for my tests. BTW, I haven't those
freeze with clisp/mit or new-clx.
>From your side, can you test clfswm with the Christophe Rhodes (old) clx
version and see if the freeze appends?



From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Sat Apr 28 22:35:25 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:35:25 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] Bug report: freeze, constantly throwing errors
In-Reply-To: <CADt3fpNLJgo9JbqZ-h10mRQXX0WYToP1ty_dEHzpko6iDO5kcg@mail.gmail.com>
	(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Micha=EBl?= Cadilhac"'s message of "Fri, 27 Apr 2012
	23:07:13 -0400")
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Micha?l Cadilhac writes:

> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Ales Guzik <ales.guzik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes (pretty often) CLFSWM freezes, infinitely writing error
>> messages
>
> FWIW, I stopped experimenting with CLFSWM because of those freezes.
> I'd gladly try out the latest version once a fix has been found.
>
This will not help very much. Can you see what you're doing before those
freezes happens? And, like for Ales, can you test clfswm with another
Xlib or Lisp version? In particular this old one:

darcs get http://common-lisp.net/~crhodes/clx

Regards,

Philippe



From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Mon Apr 30 21:19:31 2012
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:19:31 +0200
Subject: [clfswm-devel] Big change to support multiple screen heads by
	default.
Message-ID: <87r4v4sysc.fsf@common-lisp.net>

Hi list,

I've made a big change with the 4f9a389cc0 commit to remove the
*current-root* variable and support multiple screen heads by default. 
It's based on xrandr information but will soon use the more general
xdpyinfo/xinerama information.

The pro: 
1) you just have to setup your dual/multi screens with xinerama or
xrandr and clfswm will create a root frame for each heads and a frame in
this root frame. Then you can navigate as always.
2) This will simplify the modeline code (coming soon).
3) This will ease the navigation on dual/multi screens (new keybindings
coming).
4) There will be some new 'with-placement' variable relative to the
current root.

The cons: 
/!\ This may brake your .clfswmrc. /!\
In particular the *current-root* variable is still defined but not
used. I'll remove it soon. 
The get-fullscreen-size function is not defined anymore. I'll add
soon a way to change the root frame geometry.
The expose mode is broken. It needs more work to support multi heads.

Please, try it intensively. There may be some new bugs.

Regards,

Philippe