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From Matthieu.Moy at imag.fr  Mon Jan 21 21:20:48 2008
From: Matthieu.Moy at imag.fr (Matthieu Moy)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:20:48 +0100
Subject: [clfswm-devel] How to install clisp for clfswm?
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Hi,

I'm giving a try to clfswm. I'm running debian unstable, and tried to
run clfswm by installing the packages cl-clx-sbcl and clisp, and
launching clfswm with clisp load.lisp.

It "works", but I get a segfault after a few minutes of usage. For
example, Mod1-f1, then "h" gets a relatively reproducible
segfault :-(.

So, I'm trying to install clisp myself, but without success :

dowloaded clisp-2.43.tar.gz, then

./configure --prefix=...
cd src
make
make install

It suceeds, I get a new "clisp", but trying to run clfswm, I get 

; loading system definition from /home/moy/local/usr/src/clfswm/clfswm.asd into #<PACKAGE ASDF3770>
; registering #<SYSTEM CLFSWM #x203E4616> as CLFSWM
;; Compiling file /home/moy/local/usr/src/clfswm/package.lisp ...
*** - SYSTEM::%FIND-PACKAGE: There is no package with name "XLIB"


Then, I found a modules/clx/new-clx/ in the clisp distribution, but I
don't understand how to install it (there's a README which seems
totally outdated).

So, what's the easyest way to run clfswm on Debian? Any hint on a
reliable package, or the way to compile clisp with clx myself?

Thanks,

-- 
Matthieu


From pbrochard at common-lisp.net  Mon Jan 21 21:47:21 2008
From: pbrochard at common-lisp.net (Philippe Brochard)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:47:21 +0100
Subject: [clfswm-devel] How to install clisp for clfswm?
In-Reply-To: <vpqy7aix4cv.fsf@bauges.imag.fr> (Matthieu Moy's message of "Mon\,
	21 Jan 2008 22\:20\:48 +0100")
References: <vpqy7aix4cv.fsf@bauges.imag.fr>
Message-ID: <871w8aetqu.fsf@free.fr>

Matthieu Moy a ?crit :

> Hi,
>
Hi, thanks for trying clfswm!

> I'm giving a try to clfswm. I'm running debian unstable, and tried to
> run clfswm by installing the packages cl-clx-sbcl and clisp, and
> launching clfswm with clisp load.lisp.
>
I think the cl-clx-sbcl is for sbcl and is not needed by clisp.
clisp can be built with new-clx (faster) or mit-clx (more stable).
I think the debian clisp comes with new-clx built in.

> It "works", but I get a segfault after a few minutes of usage. For
> example, Mod1-f1, then "h" gets a relatively reproducible
> segfault :-(.
>
I got this on debian/testing with clisp 2.41/new-clx but not with 
clisp 2.43/new-clx.

Before trying to install clisp maybe a simple test is to run clfswm
from sbcl (it works for me on debian/testing).

> So, I'm trying to install clisp myself, but without success :
>
> dowloaded clisp-2.43.tar.gz, then
>
> ./configure --prefix=...
> cd src
> make
> make install
>
> It suceeds, I get a new "clisp", but trying to run clfswm, I get 
>
> ; loading system definition from /home/moy/local/usr/src/clfswm/clfswm.asd into #<PACKAGE ASDF3770>
> ; registering #<SYSTEM CLFSWM #x203E4616> as CLFSWM
> ;; Compiling file /home/moy/local/usr/src/clfswm/package.lisp ...
> *** - SYSTEM::%FIND-PACKAGE: There is no package with name "XLIB"
>
> Then, I found a modules/clx/new-clx/ in the clisp distribution, but I
> don't understand how to install it (there's a README which seems
> totally outdated).
>
> So, what's the easyest way to run clfswm on Debian? Any hint on a
> reliable package, or the way to compile clisp with clx myself?
>
This is normal, the clx module is not built by default.
Here is a part of the script I use to build clisp:

------------------------------------------------------------
./configure build
cd build
./makemake --with-dynamic-ffi  --srcdir=../src  --with-module="clx/mit-clx"   > Makefile
cp -p ../src/cfgunix.lisp config.lisp
chmod +w config.lisp
echo '(setq *clhs-root-default* "http://www.lisp.org/HyperSpec/")' >> config.lisp
make
make check
make install
------------------------------------------------------------

It built the mit-clx module which I found more stable (I use it every
days).

Then to use the additional modules you need to start clisp with the
full set :

$ clisp -K full load.lisp

And as said above, for a first try sbcl is more simple (but it needs a
lot of memory):

$ sbcl --load load.lisp
or 
$ sbcl
* (load "load.lisp")


> Thanks,
>
Thanks for your patience.

Philippe

-- 
Philippe Brochard    <pbrochard at common-lisp.net>
                      http://hocwp.free.fr



From Matthieu.Moy at imag.fr  Tue Jan 22 10:29:48 2008
From: Matthieu.Moy at imag.fr (Matthieu Moy)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:29:48 +0100
Subject: [clfswm-devel] How to install clisp for clfswm?
In-Reply-To: <871w8aetqu.fsf@free.fr> (Philippe Brochard's message of "Mon\,
	21 Jan 2008 22\:47\:21 +0100")
References: <vpqy7aix4cv.fsf@bauges.imag.fr> <871w8aetqu.fsf@free.fr>
Message-ID: <vpqy7ai9mqr.fsf@bauges.imag.fr>

Philippe Brochard <pbrochard at common-lisp.net> writes:

> Matthieu Moy a ?crit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
> Hi, thanks for trying clfswm!

De rien, merci de l'avoir ?crit ;-).

(BTW, you might not remember, we discussed clfswm on a Linuxfr journal
some time ago. I'm the one looking for the way out ion3 ;-) ).

Thanks for the hints, I'll try that tonight. I think most of what you
write here should be included in the INSTALL. The install instructions
for clisp are really hard to get and understand (it's much easier to
find outdated documentation than finding an accurate one, and "google
clisp clx" doesn't help much).

-- 
Matthieu