From fahree at gmail.com  Sat Jun 17 16:49:36 2006
From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:49:36 -0400
Subject: [cl-typesetting-devel] exscribe backend to cl-typesetting
Message-ID: <653bea160606170949ua117259y556b72540d9b3a24@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,

at long last, I've reserved time to write a backend for exscribe to
produce PDF, and the obvious candidate is cl-typesetting. However, two
things are stopping me at this point:

* the cl-typesetting license is considered non-DFSG free, because its
advertising clause not only mandate advertising for derivative
products (in a way as obnoxious as the original BSD license) but also
for using products (should all my scribe program suddenly have to
include a disclaimer just because they can be used with a
cl-typesetting backend?)

* there seems to be no obvious way to do footnotes, and my technical
experience with cl-typesetting is not sufficient at this point to add
this feature. I could convert footnotes to end-of-text notes in the
meantime just like I do with the HTML backend, but that would be a
shame.

Is there any evolution to expect on these fronts? And/or what can be done?

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From marc.battyani at fractalconcept.com  Sat Jun 17 18:14:41 2006
From: marc.battyani at fractalconcept.com (Marc Battyani)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:14:41 +0200
Subject: [cl-typesetting-devel] exscribe backend to cl-typesetting
Message-ID: <082d01c69239$e75f4710$1402a8c0@marcx2>

"Far?" <fahree at gmail.com> wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>at long last, I've reserved time to write a backend for exscribe to
>produce PDF, and the obvious candidate is cl-typesetting. However, two
>things are stopping me at this point:
>
>* the cl-typesetting license is considered non-DFSG free, because its
>advertising clause not only mandate advertising for derivative
>products (in a way as obnoxious as the original BSD license) but also
>for using products (should all my scribe program suddenly have to
>include a disclaimer just because they can be used with a
>cl-typesetting backend?)
>
>* there seems to be no obvious way to do footnotes, and my technical
>experience with cl-typesetting is not sufficient at this point to add
>this feature. I could convert footnotes to end-of-text notes in the
>meantime just like I do with the HTML backend, but that would be a
>shame.
>
>Is there any evolution to expect on these fronts? And/or what can be done?

OK the first one is easy, I will revert to a BSD sans advertising clause.
The idea here was not to bother people but in the contrary to help people to
find web sites/applications using cl-typesetting so that they could say to
managers/clients//teachers/etc.: Look we can use cl-typesetting to generate
documents it's already used by all those web sites/applications.

The second one is on my todo list but unfortunately I have an insane amount
of work these days so I can't tell you when I will be able to do this.

Marc