From fbogdanovic at xnet.hr  Sat Jul  2 16:55:10 2011
From: fbogdanovic at xnet.hr (Haris Bogdanovich)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 18:55:10 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] first steps
Message-ID: <7C7F3C0506C34CD589C77F09FEC6C74E@komp>

Hi.

I loaded Cells into Lispworks with

(asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op 'cells)

I hope that's ok ?

I tried to run hello-world exsmple but I always get:

badly formed lambda ?

Is there some simple example where just a window opens
(or maybe someone could write it here) ?

Thanks
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From ramarren at gmail.com  Sat Jul  2 17:13:14 2011
From: ramarren at gmail.com (Ramarren)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 19:13:14 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] first steps
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Hello,

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Haris Bogdanovich <fbogdanovic at xnet.hr> wrote:
> I loaded Cells into Lispworks with
>
> (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op 'cells)
>
> I hope that's ok ?

You are posting to cells-gtk mailing list, and since you are referring
to windows later I am assuming you want to use cells-gtk. Which is a
GTK binding which uses cells. Probably the best way to install
cells-gtk and its dependencies right now is to use
http://www.quicklisp.org/beta/ . Once you install quicklisp by
following instructions at that site you can install cells-gtk and the
demo application with:

(ql:quickload :test-gtk)

and run it with:

(test-gtk:gtk-demo)

Hope this helps,
Jakub Higersberger



From fbogdanovic at xnet.hr  Mon Jul  4 16:55:38 2011
From: fbogdanovic at xnet.hr (Haris Bogdanovich)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:55:38 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] first steps
References: <7C7F3C0506C34CD589C77F09FEC6C74E@komp>
	<CAFpQiZY-4AaiqoTBsor26n97xNXZkn0wFaEKdoOpvd565Wg9JA@mail.gmail.com>
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> (ql:quickload :test-gtk)

I tried  (ql:quickload :test-gtk) but I get:
System "cl-cairo2-win32" not found

I installed gtk on windows by downloading all-in-one bundle of:
gtk+ 2.22
and then run
pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0

What to do to make this work ?



From ramarren at gmail.com  Mon Jul  4 17:23:12 2011
From: ramarren at gmail.com (Ramarren)
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:23:12 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] first steps
In-Reply-To: <7A36023626F64FB189E471AC1CAA169E@komp>
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	<7A36023626F64FB189E471AC1CAA169E@komp>
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On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Haris Bogdanovich <fbogdanovic at xnet.hr> wrote:
> System "cl-cairo2-win32" not found

As it tuns out, quicklisp does not fully support loading cl-cairo2
specific extensions on Windows. Additionally, I have no Windows-Lisp
system and hence have not tested cells-gtk on Windows at all.

You can disable the subsystem requiring cl-cairo2 by editing the file
which can be located with:

(asdf:system-relative-pathname (asdf:find-system :cells-gtk) "features.lisp")

and commenting out line which contains :cells-gtk-cairo . Then loading
the system with

(asdf:load-system :test-gtk)

might work, if the system is able to locate the libraries. I do not
know how CFFI locates libraries on a Windows system. Some adjustment
to gtk-ffi/glibraries.lisp (relative to a directory where
features.lisp is located) might be necessary.

Regards,
Jakub Higersberger



From peter.denno at nist.gov  Mon Jul  4 19:27:45 2011
From: peter.denno at nist.gov (Peter Denno)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:27:45 -0400
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] first steps
In-Reply-To: <CAFpQiZYk977ook=c=kc+HubFENjQOF-MVvMDRYFu7s_WKwkAsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7C7F3C0506C34CD589C77F09FEC6C74E@komp>	<CAFpQiZY-4AaiqoTBsor26n97xNXZkn0wFaEKdoOpvd565Wg9JA@mail.gmail.com>	<7A36023626F64FB189E471AC1CAA169E@komp>
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Message-ID: <4E121431.8030104@nist.gov>

On 07/04/2011 01:23 PM, Ramarren wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Haris Bogdanovich<fbogdanovic at xnet.hr>  wrote:
>> System "cl-cairo2-win32" not found
> As it tuns out, quicklisp does not fully support loading cl-cairo2
> specific extensions on Windows. Additionally, I have no Windows-Lisp
> system and hence have not tested cells-gtk on Windows at all.
>
> You can disable the subsystem requiring cl-cairo2 by editing the file
> which can be located with:
>
> (asdf:system-relative-pathname (asdf:find-system :cells-gtk) "features.lisp")
>
> and commenting out line which contains :cells-gtk-cairo . Then loading
> the system with
>
> (asdf:load-system :test-gtk)
>
> might work,
Agreed. If I recall, not much depends on Cairo.
> if the system is able to locate the libraries. I do not
> know how CFFI locates libraries on a Windows system. Some adjustment
> to gtk-ffi/glibraries.lisp (relative to a directory where
> features.lisp is located) might be necessary.
>
> Regards,
> Jakub Higersberger
>
> _______________________________________________
> cells-gtk-devel site list
> cells-gtk-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cells-gtk-devel
> .
>


-- 

Best regards,
   Peter

Peter Denno
National Institute of Standards and Technology,
Systems Integration Division,
Engineering Laboratory,
100 Bureau Drive, Mail Stop 8265          Tel: +1 301-975-3595
Gaithersburg, MD, USA 20899-8265          FAX: +1 301-975-4694

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From peter.hildebrandt at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 15:45:34 2011
From: peter.hildebrandt at gmail.com (Peter Hildebrandt)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 08:45:34 -0700
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] first steps
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Yes, Peter is correct. Cells-gtk only uses Cairo (and OpenGL for that
matter) for two widgets derived from the gtk canvas object.

You can deactivate both, there is a flag somewhere (either in features
or even in cells-gtk.asd, I forget). Once you deactivate the features,
the dependency disappears and all you lose are these two types of
widgets.

Cffi uses some sort of magic to locate the binaries. You will have to
compile the c file for windows (any c compiler should do if you have
the gtk headers installed). Or maybe someone can share a precompiled
windows version?

There is a feature to remove this, too. You will lose a bit more
functionality, editable listviws and treeviews for example.

Nice job moving this to QuickLisp - Thank you, Jakub!

Peter

Travelling and without access to a computer, so I can't check myself, sorry.


On Monday, July 4, 2011, Peter Denno <peter.denno at nist.gov> wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;     On 07/04/2011 01:23 PM, Ramarren wrote:
&gt;
&gt;       On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Haris Bogdanovich
&lt;fbogdanovic at xnet.hr&gt;?&lt;fbogdanovic at xnet.hr&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;         System &quot;cl-cairo2-win32&quot; not found
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; As it tuns out, quicklisp does not fully support loading cl-cairo2
&gt; specific extensions on Windows. Additionally, I have no Windows-Lisp
&gt; system and hence have not tested cells-gtk on Windows at all.
&gt;
&gt; You can disable the subsystem requiring cl-cairo2 by editing the file
&gt; which can be located with:
&gt;
&gt; (asdf:system-relative-pathname (asdf:find-system :cells-gtk)
&quot;features.lisp&quot;)
&gt;
&gt; and commenting out line which contains :cells-gtk-cairo . Then loading
&gt; the system with
&gt;
&gt; (asdf:load-system :test-gtk)
&gt;
&gt; might work,
&gt;
&gt;     Agreed. If I recall, not much depends on Cairo.
&gt;
&gt;       if the system is able to locate the libraries. I do not
&gt; know how CFFI locates libraries on a Windows system. Some adjustment
&gt; to gtk-ffi/glibraries.lisp (relative to a directory where
&gt; features.lisp is located) might be necessary.
&gt;
&gt; Regards,
&gt; Jakub Higersberger
&gt;
&gt; _______________________________________________
&gt; cells-gtk-devel site list
&gt; cells-gtk-devel at common-lisp.net
&gt; http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cells-gtk-devel
&gt; .
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;     --
&gt;
&gt; Best regards,
&gt;   Peter
&gt;
&gt; Peter Denno
&gt; National Institute of Standards and Technology,
&gt; Systems Integration Division,
&gt; Engineering Laboratory,
&gt; 100 Bureau Drive, Mail Stop 8265          Tel: +1 301-975-3595
&gt; Gaithersburg, MD, USA 20899-8265          FAX: +1 301-975-4694
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;



From ramarren at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 16:50:29 2011
From: ramarren at gmail.com (Ramarren)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:50:29 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] first steps
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On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Peter Hildebrandt
<peter.hildebrandt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Cffi uses some sort of magic to locate the binaries. You will have to
> compile the c file for windows (any c compiler should do if you have
> the gtk headers installed). Or maybe someone can share a precompiled
> windows version?

I have actually removed the auxiliary library as part of a move to
Quicklisp, which discourages uses of non-Lisp compilation. Part of it
has been replaced with more recent GTK+ functionality, and part I have
reimplemented in Lisp, hopefully correctly. At least it seems to work
on my machine. It apparently doesn't on 64bit linux, but I don't
actually know if it is in something I changed, since I don't have an
access to a 64bit machine to track it down.

Jakub



From fbogdanovic at xnet.hr  Sat Jul  9 12:46:36 2011
From: fbogdanovic at xnet.hr (Haris Bogdanovich)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 14:46:36 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] compiling gtk on windows
Message-ID: <860CAAAEB8FD440E8EEF40179B61CA0C@komp>

Hi.

Do I have to compile gtk+ on Windows (msys, mingw)
to use cells gtk ?

Thanks
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From ramarren at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 13:05:05 2011
From: ramarren at gmail.com (Ramarren)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:05:05 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] compiling gtk on windows
In-Reply-To: <860CAAAEB8FD440E8EEF40179B61CA0C@komp>
References: <860CAAAEB8FD440E8EEF40179B61CA0C@komp>
Message-ID: <CAFpQiZbQYHs2ovLkTnT-07bZJAipdrcX8dD9jfeHUEEhcsk-xw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Haris Bogdanovich <fbogdanovic at xnet.hr> wrote:
> Do I have to compile gtk+ on Windows (msys, mingw)
> to use cells gtk ?

No, you just need to have the runtime installed somewhere where CFFI
can find it. The precompiled GTK runtime seems to be available for
Windows from their website: http://www.gtk.org/download/win32.php .

JH



From fbogdanovic at xnet.hr  Sat Jul  9 13:22:06 2011
From: fbogdanovic at xnet.hr (Haris Bogdanovich)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:22:06 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] compiling gtk on windows
References: <860CAAAEB8FD440E8EEF40179B61CA0C@komp>
	<CAFpQiZbQYHs2ovLkTnT-07bZJAipdrcX8dD9jfeHUEEhcsk-xw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B35A445FA16C4235A18A8424041ED7EC@komp>

> No, you just need to have the runtime installed somewhere where 
> CFFI can find it.

I installed the all-in-one binary package in c:\gtk.
What now ?
How can CFFI find it there or do I change the folder ?
(I'm using Lispworks)



From ramarren at gmail.com  Sat Jul  9 13:30:53 2011
From: ramarren at gmail.com (Ramarren)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:30:53 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] compiling gtk on windows
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On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Haris Bogdanovich <fbogdanovic at xnet.hr> wrote:
> How can CFFI find it there or do I change the folder ?

After loading CFFI you can push the location of GTK dll files into
CFFI:*FOREIGN-LIBRARY-DIRECTORIES*, which should be a list of
pathnames.

JH



From fbogdanovic at xnet.hr  Sun Jul 10 11:18:27 2011
From: fbogdanovic at xnet.hr (Haris Bogdanovich)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:18:27 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] installing
Message-ID: <92E3C0E6454A4DA3A49E534F3813403E@komp>

Hi.

I tried to install cells-gtk by quicklisp.
I firstly added folders with gtk dll files to cffi:*foreign-library-directories*.
Now it doesn't complain something about cairo-win32.
Now it complains about glut:

Unable to load foreign library (GLUT).
  Could not register handle for external module GLUT:
 The specified module could not be found..

I dowloaded glut binaries and added the folder with dll to cffi:*foreign-library-directories*
But again I get the same error about glut ?

Thanks
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From ramarren at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 12:43:41 2011
From: ramarren at gmail.com (Ramarren)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:43:41 +0200
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] installing
In-Reply-To: <92E3C0E6454A4DA3A49E534F3813403E@komp>
References: <92E3C0E6454A4DA3A49E534F3813403E@komp>
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On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Haris Bogdanovich <fbogdanovic at xnet.hr> wrote:
> Now it complains about glut:

cells-gtk does not use glut directly, which means this is (cl-)opengl
issue. You can disable opengl dependency, which is used only for
embedding opengl drawing context, in the same file in the same way you
disabled cairo dependency.

JH