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From hrapof at common-lisp.ru  Sat Mar 24 16:07:12 2007
From: hrapof at common-lisp.ru (Dmitri Hrapof)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:07:12 +0300
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] new patch
Message-ID: <46054CB0.20301@common-lisp.ru>

Hello! I tried to post this message a week ago, but apparently it was 
too long for the list, so I resend it after putting the patch on the web.

I've just finished a substantial project in which I tried lots of new 
Lisp things (for me, that is): foreign libraries, GUI, serial port 
programming, process spawning etc. It's a real time scientific data 
visualisation program, and I am pleased to say that Lisp version (5 
kLOC) is faster than C++ one (13 kLOC). The only thing I regret is I 
didn't use cells themselves as time was scarce and I had to learn GTK 
along the way, so I decided to absorb new things gradually :)
The patch with modifications that I made to cells-gtk in the process 
(mostly new function declarations) lies here: 
http://www.common-lisp.ru/cells-gtk.patch
I ran diff as follows:
diff -urN cells-gtk-2006-06-30-orig cells-gtk-2006-06-30 >cells-gtk.patch

I reinclude drawing.lisp but removed almost everything from it save 
widget declaration. The reason is that drawing and text rendering can be 
done either with cl-opengl and freetype (e.g. my semi-working freetype 
binding, inspired by CLIM freetype binding: 
http://www.common-lisp.ru/cleft.lisp, 
http://www.common-lisp.ru/cleft.lisp) or with cl-cairo.

Hope it will be useful.

Sincerely yours,
Dmitri

P.S. BTW, is any support for Glade planned?


From peter.denno at nist.gov  Sat Mar 24 20:51:29 2007
From: peter.denno at nist.gov (Peter Denno)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:51:29 -0400
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] new patch
In-Reply-To: <46054CB0.20301@common-lisp.ru>
References: <46054CB0.20301@common-lisp.ru>
Message-ID: <200703241651.30050.peter.denno@nist.gov>

On Saturday 24 March 2007 12:07, Dmitri Hrapof wrote:
> Hello! I tried to post this message a week ago, but apparently it was
> too long for the list, so I resend it after putting the patch on the web.

Hi Dmitri,

I think there are length restrictions on this email list. They might have 
prevented your posting. 
>
> I've just finished a substantial project in which I tried lots of new
> Lisp things (for me, that is): foreign libraries, GUI, serial port
> programming, process spawning etc. It's a real time scientific data
> visualisation program, and I am pleased to say that Lisp version (5
> kLOC) is faster than C++ one (13 kLOC). The only thing I regret is I
> didn't use cells themselves as time was scarce and I had to learn GTK
> along the way, so I decided to absorb new things gradually :)
> The patch with modifications that I made to cells-gtk in the process
> (mostly new function declarations) lies here:
> http://www.common-lisp.ru/cells-gtk.patch
> I ran diff as follows:
> diff -urN cells-gtk-2006-06-30-orig cells-gtk-2006-06-30 >cells-gtk.patch
>
> I reinclude drawing.lisp but removed almost everything from it save
> widget declaration. The reason is that drawing and text rendering can be
> done either with cl-opengl and freetype (e.g. my semi-working freetype
> binding, inspired by CLIM freetype binding:
> http://www.common-lisp.ru/cleft.lisp,
> http://www.common-lisp.ru/cleft.lisp) or with cl-cairo.

drawing.lisp should have used cairo. It was a rather naive attempt. If you'd 
like to learn cells, you might try replacing the actual drawing primitives in 
drawing.lisp with cairo calls, if that makes sense (I haven't looked at it in 
detail). If you have questions about cells, you can ask on this list.

> Hope it will be useful.

It is hard to say without an example showing what it does. Do you have one, 
ideally something that can run as part of the existing test-gtk demo?

Did you intend this patch as an addition to the cells-gtk distribution, or 
just an example of how to do drawing?

What is cysgu about? It appears to only be (sleep .01), but is that a stub for 
something else?

+		(loop
+		 (loop while (gtk-events-pending) do 
+		       (gtk-main-iteration-do nil))
+		 (funcall (cysgu app) app))



>
> Sincerely yours,
> Dmitri
>
> P.S. BTW, is any support for Glade planned?

I don't, but maybe someone else here does. Sounds interesting though.

> _______________________________________________
> cells-gtk-devel site list
> cells-gtk-devel at common-lisp.net
> http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cells-gtk-devel

-- 
Best regards,
  - Peter


From hrapof at common-lisp.ru  Sat Mar 24 22:34:14 2007
From: hrapof at common-lisp.ru (Dmitri Hrapof)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 01:34:14 +0300
Subject: [cells-gtk-devel] new patch
In-Reply-To: <200703241651.30050.peter.denno@nist.gov>
References: <46054CB0.20301@common-lisp.ru>
	<200703241651.30050.peter.denno@nist.gov>
Message-ID: <4605A766.1060004@common-lisp.ru>

Peter Denno ?????:
> Did you intend this patch as an addition to the cells-gtk distribution, or 
> just an example of how to do drawing?
>   
I intend this patch just as bunch of newly defined foreign functions 
(especially in gtkglext and pango libraries) to save other people from 
this hassle.

> What is cysgu about? It appears to only be (sleep .01), but is that a stub for 
> something else?
>
> +		(loop
> +		 (loop while (gtk-events-pending) do 
> +		       (gtk-main-iteration-do nil))
> +		 (funcall (cysgu app) app))
>   
Oh, I even forgot it was there. You see, I started with cells and then 
turned to plain GTK. The idea behind CYSGU ("to sleep" in Welsh, named 
so to stand out of host of proper cells-gtk functions) is that 
application (if there is no threads) has to SELECT on network sockets, 
check files, standard input, perform CORBA ORB work etc. I asked on this 
mailing list how to do it right, and Kenneth Tilton suggested the same 
thing as I had initially supposed (i.e. CYSGU).

Sincerely yours,
Dmitri