From arolsen at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 16:46:12 2009 From: arolsen at gmail.com (Adam Olsen) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:46:12 -0600 Subject: [cello-devel] Where can I see the screenshots and obtain a copy of Cello? Message-ID: <2473b43f0907100946h6c4d154qf8dcab345ca81796@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'd like to use Cello, but unfortunately the FTP url mentioned on the homepage leads to an empty directory (ftp://common-lisp.net/pub/project/cello/) Can anyone help me out here? -- Adam Olsen http://www.vimtips.org http://last.fm/user/synic From kentilton at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 19:18:10 2009 From: kentilton at gmail.com (Kenneth Tilton) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:18:10 -0400 Subject: [cello-devel] Where can I see the screenshots and obtain a copy of Cello? In-Reply-To: <2473b43f0907100946h6c4d154qf8dcab345ca81796@mail.gmail.com> References: <2473b43f0907100946h6c4d154qf8dcab345ca81796@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5793F2.5050207@gmail.com> The only thing I ever do any more is commit my latest source back to CVS. Frank Goenninger had a Cello make-over project going but I am not sure he released anything (or got far enough to do so or something). Web access: http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/?root=cello You can use CVS or just grab the tarball. I have been astonished by reports of people managaing to get the whole thing working unaided, so it is not impossible, just close to it. Not that you would be unaided, just ask and we happy few Cellists will help. I'll look around to see if I can find those screenshots. kt Adam Olsen wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to use Cello, but unfortunately the FTP url mentioned on the > homepage leads to an empty directory > (ftp://common-lisp.net/pub/project/cello/) > > Can anyone help me out here? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: 07/09/09 05:55:00 > From frgo at me.com Fri Jul 10 19:22:48 2009 From: frgo at me.com (Frank Goenninger) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:22:48 +0200 Subject: [cello-devel] Where can I see the screenshots and obtain a copy of Cello? In-Reply-To: <2473b43f0907100946h6c4d154qf8dcab345ca81796@mail.gmail.com> References: <2473b43f0907100946h6c4d154qf8dcab345ca81796@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7CB33469-384D-4FF4-A466-3CD67674F75F@me.com> Am 10.07.2009 um 18:46 schrieb Adam Olsen: |-------------------------------- |Hi, | |I'd like to use Cello, but unfortunately the FTP url mentioned on the |homepage leads to an empty directory |(ftp://common-lisp.net/pub/project/cello/) | |Can anyone help me out here? |-------------------------------- Well, currently there is no official site where you can see screen shots, unfortunately. Also, Cello, in its current state, is not ready-to-use just like that. That means: You would need some effort to get it to work in your environment (mostly because it depends on a number of external libraries). Furthermore, Cello does not provide any predefined set of widgets or controls. You have to roll your own. It' pretty straight forward, but still. Now, if you are still interested: I can download the Cello code via CVS using a command like this: cvs -d fgoenninger at common-lisp.net:/project/cello/cvsroot co cello Note: I have a login on the common-lisp.net machine (that the "fgoenninger" part in the command string). I have not been able to figure out how to access CVS anonymously, unfortunately. I could send you the tarball if you sent me your email address. Hope that helps. Cheers Frank -- Frank Goenninger Cell: +49 175 4321058 E-Mail: frgo at me.com From frgo at me.com Fri Jul 10 19:47:25 2009 From: frgo at me.com (Frank Goenninger) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:47:25 +0200 Subject: [cello-devel] Where can I see the screenshots and obtain a copy of Cello? In-Reply-To: <4A5793F2.5050207@gmail.com> References: <2473b43f0907100946h6c4d154qf8dcab345ca81796@mail.gmail.com> <4A5793F2.5050207@gmail.com> Message-ID: Am 10.07.2009 um 21:18 schrieb Kenneth Tilton: | Frank Goenninger had a Cello make-over project going but I am not | sure he released anything (or got far enough to do so or something). Actually I am currently debugging a nasty OpenGL/FTGL font handling issues with texture fonts and some race condition in the code. So, still a huge amount of work to do, but slowly and steadily getting there. Unfortunately I have won a rather large consulting project that needs 150% of my time. The other 150% are divided between my family and the Cello NX work ;-) Bottom line: It will take at least some months until I get something out that's worth sharing... Best, Frank Adam Olsen wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to use Cello, but unfortunately the FTP url mentioned on the > homepage leads to an empty directory > (ftp://common-lisp.net/pub/project/cello/) > > Can anyone help me out here? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2227 - Release Date: > 07/09/09 05:55:00 > _______________________________________________ cello-devel site list cello-devel at common-lisp.net http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cello-devel -- Frank Goenninger Cell: +49 175 4321058 E-Mail: frgo at me.com From arolsen at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 16:02:43 2009 From: arolsen at gmail.com (Adam Olsen) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:02:43 -0600 Subject: [cello-devel] Where can I see the screenshots and obtain a copy of Cello? In-Reply-To: <7CB33469-384D-4FF4-A466-3CD67674F75F@me.com> References: <2473b43f0907100946h6c4d154qf8dcab345ca81796@mail.gmail.com> <7CB33469-384D-4FF4-A466-3CD67674F75F@me.com> Message-ID: <2473b43f0907110902y1ca77503g91668ab64282c9ea@mail.gmail.com> First off, thanks Kennith and Frank for responding so quickly. Now: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Frank Goenninger wrote: > Well, > > currently there is no official site where you can see screen shots, > unfortunately. Also, Cello, in its current state, is not ready-to-use > just like that. That means: You would need some effort to get it to > work in your environment (mostly because it depends on a number of > external libraries). Furthermore, Cello does not provide any > predefined set of widgets or controls. You have to roll your own. It' > pretty straight forward, but still. Now, if you are still interested: Ah, probably not for me. I don't officially know Common Lisp (yet). I've been reading Practical Common Lisp and I've really been liking what I've seen so far. In the past I've always learned a new language by figuring out a project and just writing it. I haven't quite figured the project out yet, but I've been looking around to see what libraries were available for CL, and yours popped up as the first hit for a GUI toolkit on Google. While it does sound cool, it's probably out of my league at this point. Thanks again for responding so quickly, though. -- Adam Olsen http://www.vimtips.org http://last.fm/user/synic From kentilton at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 18:47:15 2009 From: kentilton at gmail.com (Kenneth Tilton) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:47:15 -0400 Subject: [cello-devel] Where can I see the screenshots and obtain a copy of Cello? In-Reply-To: <2473b43f0907110902y1ca77503g91668ab64282c9ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <2473b43f0907100946h6c4d154qf8dcab345ca81796@mail.gmail.com> <7CB33469-384D-4FF4-A466-3CD67674F75F@me.com> <2473b43f0907110902y1ca77503g91668ab64282c9ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A58DE33.3080905@gmail.com> Adam Olsen wrote: > First off, thanks Kennith and Frank for responding so quickly. Now: > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Frank Goenninger wrote: >> Well, >> >> currently there is no official site where you can see screen shots, >> unfortunately. Also, Cello, in its current state, is not ready-to-use >> just like that. That means: You would need some effort to get it to >> work in your environment (mostly because it depends on a number of >> external libraries). Furthermore, Cello does not provide any >> predefined set of widgets or controls. You have to roll your own. It' >> pretty straight forward, but still. Now, if you are still interested: > > Ah, probably not for me. I don't officially know Common Lisp (yet). > I've been reading Practical Common Lisp and I've really been liking > what I've seen so far. In the past I've always learned a new language > by figuring out a project and just writing it. I haven't quite > figured the project out yet, but I've been looking around to see what > libraries were available for CL, and yours popped up as the first hit > for a GUI toolkit on Google. While it does sound cool, it's probably > out of my league at this point. Peter Herth's LTk is about the simplest GUI project out there, and stable and supported by a quiet list. kt