From fahree at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 05:07:57 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:07:57 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 Message-ID: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> http://fare.livejournal.com/126150.html Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 Note: ITA Software, a fine employer of Lisp hackers (disclosure: I work there), has kindly offered to sponsor a dinner for our Monthly Boston Lisp Meeting. Please send mail to boston-lisp-meeting-register at common-lisp.net with a list of attendees so we may order the correct amount of food. Danny Yoo will give a 25' talk about DivaScheme. DivaScheme http://www.cs.brown.edu/research/plt/software/divascheme/ is a semi-structured text editor layer on top of the DrScheme IDE. It provides structured editing operations that provide additional support for the navigation and maintenance of Scheme source code. DivaScheme's operations act on whole s-expressions rather than characters: unbalanced parentheses are impossible within the confines of DivaScheme. It also manages whitespace cleanup and indentation for the user. Finally, its keybindings are single keystrokes rather than chords to reduce hand strain. Danny Yoo http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~dyoo/ received his bachelor's from UC Berkeley in 2001, and worked for the Arabidopsis Information Resource (http://arabidopsis.org) at the Carnegie Institution of Washington from 2001-2006. He is currently a CS graduate student at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. His web site is: http://hashcollision.org/. Shriram Krishnamurthi will give a 50' talk about Relationally-Parametric Polymorphic Contracts http://www.cs.brown.edu/~sk/Publications/Papers/Published/gmfk-rel-par-poly-cont/ The analogy between types and contracts raises the question of how many features of static type systems can be expressed as dynamic contracts. An important feature missing in prior work on contracts is parametricity, as represented by the polymorphic types in languages like Standard ML. We present a contract counterpart to parametricity. We explore multiple designs for such a system and present one that is simple and incurs minimal execution overhead. We show how to extend the notion of contract blame to our definition. We present a form of inference that can often save programmers from having to explicitly instantiate many parametric contracts. Finally, we present several examples that illustrate how this system mimics the feel and properties of parametric polymorphism in typed languages. Shriram Krishnamurthi http://www.cs.brown.edu/~sk/ is an Associate Professor of Computer Science at Brown University. His recent work focuses on language support for interactive software, and on analyses for security policies. He is a co-author of the DrScheme programming environment, the FASTLINK genetic linkage analysis package, the Continue conference paper server, the Margrave access control policy analysis package, the Flapjax programming language, and the book "How to Design Programs". He has also written "Programming Languages: Application and Interpretation" and coordinates the decade-old TeachScheme! high-school computer science outreach program. Please note that the meeting is taking places both at an unusual day (as has been usual) and at an unusual place (as is unusual). The Lisp Meeting with take place on Wednesday June 25th at North Eeastern University, Shillman Hall Room 135. NEU map: http://www.northeastern.edu/campusmap/ See building 30 on the above html map, but note that the numbers are only relative to the map: if you have to ask for directions, ask for Shillman Hall. For directions and parking suggestions, see also below. Google Map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=42.338086,-71.08915&spn=0.007249,0.011555&t=k&z=17&msid=104088594274908808376.00044daf860fd8f550b68 Many thanks go to Richard Cobbe for finding us a room, and to Northeastern University for welcoming us. The previous Boston Lisp Meeting on May 28th was a success despite only 34 participants. Those who didn't come missed two very interesting talks. I welcome email suggestions for things that will make you come: maybe shorter sessions with only one speaker? In any case, many thanks to all those who came. We're always looking for more speakers. The call for speakers and all the other details are at http://fare.livejournal.com/120393.html Please forward this information to people you think would be interested. Please accept my apologies for your receiving this message multiple times. For more information, see our new web site boston-lisp.org. For posts related to the Boston Lisp meetings in general, follow this link: http://fare.livejournal.com/tag/boston-lisp-meeting or subscribe to our RSS feed: http://fare.livejournal.com/data/rss?tag=boston-lisp-meeting From r.p.levy at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 14:57:01 2008 From: r.p.levy at gmail.com (rob levy) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:57:01 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > The previous Boston Lisp Meeting on May 28th was a success despite > only 34 participants. Those who didn't come missed two very > interesting talks. I welcome email suggestions for things that will > make you come: maybe shorter sessions with only one speaker? In any > case, many thanks to all those who came. > Could be the light rain, or maybe people are intimidated by the high concentration of elite lisp hackers with their wide-ranging knowledge (just kidding, maybe). I find it pretty inspiring and informative to listen to (and where appropriate, talk with) people whose accomplishments in my favorite programming language are much greater than anything I have done at this point. The quality of the talks has been extremely high, which I assume is due to the Lisp community in general just being full of people doing interesting things, and that is because of the language being what it is. One thing I was thinking about that would be really interesting would be a talk about Lisp Machines, either by someone who developed some of the software or hardware, or by someone who just knows a lot about them. Even better if it involves a live demonstration of one of the machines. On a similar note, I'm curious about the various projects to create a kernel in Lisp and a Lisp OS on top of it. I don't know if anyone in the Movitz project lives around here, but if not that then a different Common Lisp or Scheme OS project by someone local would be interesting. Thanks & looking forward to more great talks, Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg at technomadic.org Fri Jun 6 15:30:18 2008 From: greg at technomadic.org (Greg Pfeil) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:30:18 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4849580A.7090607@technomadic.org> rob levy wrote: > The previous Boston Lisp Meeting on May 28th was a success despite > only 34 participants. Those who didn't come missed two very > interesting talks. I welcome email suggestions for things that will > make you come: maybe shorter sessions with only one speaker? In any > case, many thanks to all those who came. > > Could be the light rain, or maybe people are intimidated by the high > concentration of elite lisp hackers with their wide-ranging knowledge > (just kidding, maybe). I find it pretty inspiring and informative to > listen to (and where appropriate, talk with) people whose > accomplishments in my favorite programming language are much greater > than anything I have done at this point. Yeah, I don't know that anything should be changed. I missed the last meeting (much to my chagrin) only because I was out of town on vacation. > One thing I was thinking about that would be really interesting would be > a talk about Lisp Machines, either by someone who developed some of the > software or hardware, or by someone who just knows a lot about them. > Even better if it involves a live demonstration of one of the machines. There are a lot of people in the area who are qualified to speak about Lisp Machines. It's something I would like to hear about as well. I will make a few requests. > On a similar note, I'm curious about the various projects to create a > kernel in Lisp and a Lisp OS on top of it. I don't know if anyone in > the Movitz project lives around here, but if not that then a different > Common Lisp or Scheme OS project by someone local would be interesting. The author of the SBCL-OS project has been to some of the meetings. Maybe he'll treat us to a talk at some point :) > Thanks & looking forward to more great talks, Me too! From matthewknox at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 19:49:39 2008 From: matthewknox at gmail.com (Matt Knox) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:49:39 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: <4849580A.7090607@technomadic.org> References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> <4849580A.7090607@technomadic.org> Message-ID: I know a fair number (definitely 3, possibly 3 more) of boston lispers who were at railsconf, so I don't know that it's all that big a deal. I'll be there for the next one. That said, having had the privilege of watching Heow Eide-Goodman work his magic (6 years of strong attendance without sponsorship and with only 6ish talks/year!), I can say with total confidence that going out drinking after the tech talks is an absolute necessity for the longevity of the group. Once one's head has been filled with the sublime, the sublime must be bludgeoned into longterm memory with a few dozen beers. Then those local lispers who are alcoholics can serve as a skeleton on which the rest of the organization can be hung. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Greg Pfeil wrote: > rob levy wrote: > >> The previous Boston Lisp Meeting on May 28th was a success despite >> only 34 participants. Those who didn't come missed two very >> interesting talks. I welcome email suggestions for things that will >> make you come: maybe shorter sessions with only one speaker? In any >> case, many thanks to all those who came. >> >> Could be the light rain, or maybe people are intimidated by the high >> concentration of elite lisp hackers with their wide-ranging knowledge (just >> kidding, maybe). I find it pretty inspiring and informative to listen to >> (and where appropriate, talk with) people whose accomplishments in my >> favorite programming language are much greater than anything I have done at >> this point. >> > > Yeah, I don't know that anything should be changed. I missed the last > meeting (much to my chagrin) only because I was out of town on vacation. > > One thing I was thinking about that would be really interesting would be a >> talk about Lisp Machines, either by someone who developed some of the >> software or hardware, or by someone who just knows a lot about them. Even >> better if it involves a live demonstration of one of the machines. >> > > There are a lot of people in the area who are qualified to speak about Lisp > Machines. It's something I would like to hear about as well. I will make a > few requests. > > On a similar note, I'm curious about the various projects to create a >> kernel in Lisp and a Lisp OS on top of it. I don't know if anyone in the >> Movitz project lives around here, but if not that then a different Common >> Lisp or Scheme OS project by someone local would be interesting. >> > > The author of the SBCL-OS project has been to some of the meetings. Maybe > he'll treat us to a talk at some point :) > > Thanks & looking forward to more great talks, >> > > Me too! > > _______________________________________________ > boston-lisp mailing list > boston-lisp at common-lisp.net > http://common-lisp.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/boston-lisp > -- (def (eval e l d c) (if (atom? e) ((ahandler (type e)) e l d c) (eval (car e) l d (fun (x) (evapp x (cdr e) l d c))))) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From photinodecay at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 20:38:19 2008 From: photinodecay at gmail.com (Rahul Jain) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:38:19 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> <4849580A.7090607@technomadic.org> Message-ID: <26985c9e0806061338q7b905e26u69f67f560084fd06@mail.gmail.com> Man, I can't have boston's and nyc's lispers hanging off me! Although it looks like I'll be in boston for this month's lispnyc and in nyc, maybe on my way to montreal for the boston lisp meeting... *shakes off the hangers-on and gives them to marc, heow, kenny, matt, and fare* 2008/6/6 Matt Knox : > I know a fair number (definitely 3, possibly 3 more) of boston lispers who > were at railsconf, so I don't know that it's all that big a deal. I'll be > there for the next one. > > That said, having had the privilege of watching Heow Eide-Goodman work his > magic (6 years of strong attendance without sponsorship and with only 6ish > talks/year!), I can say with total confidence that going out drinking after > the tech talks is an absolute necessity for the longevity of the group. > Once one's head has been filled with the sublime, the sublime must be > bludgeoned into longterm memory with a few dozen beers. Then those local > lispers who are alcoholics can serve as a skeleton on which the rest of the > organization can be hung. > > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Greg Pfeil wrote: > >> rob levy wrote: >> >>> The previous Boston Lisp Meeting on May 28th was a success despite >>> only 34 participants. Those who didn't come missed two very >>> interesting talks. I welcome email suggestions for things that will >>> make you come: maybe shorter sessions with only one speaker? In any >>> case, many thanks to all those who came. >>> >>> Could be the light rain, or maybe people are intimidated by the high >>> concentration of elite lisp hackers with their wide-ranging knowledge (just >>> kidding, maybe). I find it pretty inspiring and informative to listen to >>> (and where appropriate, talk with) people whose accomplishments in my >>> favorite programming language are much greater than anything I have done at >>> this point. >>> >> >> Yeah, I don't know that anything should be changed. I missed the last >> meeting (much to my chagrin) only because I was out of town on vacation. >> >> One thing I was thinking about that would be really interesting would be >>> a talk about Lisp Machines, either by someone who developed some of the >>> software or hardware, or by someone who just knows a lot about them. Even >>> better if it involves a live demonstration of one of the machines. >>> >> >> There are a lot of people in the area who are qualified to speak about >> Lisp Machines. It's something I would like to hear about as well. I will >> make a few requests. >> >> On a similar note, I'm curious about the various projects to create a >>> kernel in Lisp and a Lisp OS on top of it. I don't know if anyone in the >>> Movitz project lives around here, but if not that then a different Common >>> Lisp or Scheme OS project by someone local would be interesting. >>> >> >> The author of the SBCL-OS project has been to some of the meetings. 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URL: From pitman at nhplace.com Sat Jun 7 03:29:30 2008 From: pitman at nhplace.com (Kent M Pitman) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 23:29:30 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004201c8c84e$b4cb0f30$1502a8c0@howard> rob levy wrote: > > The previous Boston Lisp Meeting on May 28th was > > a success despite only 34 participants. > Could be the light rain, or maybe people are intimidated > by the high concentration of elite lisp hackers I'm rarely intimidated by either of these, but, FWIW, it could be the advanced registration for food. I often only know with only a certain percent confidence that I'll be able to go, so I generally don't respond saying I'll be there. Then when the event comes around I figure I haven't said I'd be there and tend to be conservative about going to things that require headcounts where I didn't say I'd be there. I have never made a decision wholly on this basis, but more than once the nature of the food headcount has weighed into my decision not to come in a kind of "inertial" way that is hard to articulate but I think is nevertheless worth mentioning. I don't think it's bad to take a headcount, but I think it's critical to say how you want people who aren't sure to respond and to emphasize that they should still come if they haven't signed up, if that's what you want them to do, so that those with the personality to think that's "party crashing" won't feel that way. People differ culturally on this and the fact that some people may think this is obvious does not imply all people do. Even so, though, I think it's natural for people to fall off some in attendance and to go only sometimes. I was surprised that you went for an every-month thing, figuring that was very ambitious. I only ever planned to attend sometimes, and continue to hope on a month-by-month basis that I'll find the time. > One thing I was thinking about that would be really interesting > would be a talk about Lisp Machines, You're in the right town for that. But Lisp Machines are a big topic area. That's kind of like a talk on "the C language and things it has been used for". And the communities started off the same and then diverged into different cultures such that everyone's reality was not even the same. But even glossing that, there are issues of operating system, editing environment file system, editing tools, mail reading, patching tools, marketplace, etc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fahree at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 04:29:51 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 00:29:51 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: <484A05FF.4040201@neilvandyke.org> References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> <004201c8c84e$b4cb0f30$1502a8c0@howard> <484A05FF.4040201@neilvandyke.org> Message-ID: <653bea160806062129w359b0f6fr41b237aa4e2d0a72@mail.gmail.com> Fair enough. I'll reword my call for registration. How about that? "Note: ITA Software, a fine employer of Lisp hackers (disclosure: I work there), is kindly sponsoring a dinner for our Monthly Boston Lisp Meeting. Dinner will be offered to all who come listen to the talks. However, so as to make our ordering process easier, we appreciate if you register by email to boston-lisp-meeting-register at common-lisp.net with a list of attendees and any food taboos. Your identities will be kept confidential and not transmitted to anyone, not even our kind sponsor." As a matter of fact, I have outsourced registration and don't know myself the identities of who registers, only the head count. In any case, thanks for the feedback. PS: please keep discussion on the boston-lisp mailing-list and not the cross-posted mailing-lists. My bad for having made it all too easy to reply to too many mailing-lists. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Don't have good ideas if you aren't willing to be responsible for them. -- Alan Perlis 2008/6/6 Neil Van Dyke : > I almost mentioned the food RSVP thing myself, so I'm glad Kent mentioned > it. > > The main issue is that registering for food was a hurdle and a commitment, > which meant that, being an engineer/process type, I deferred planning to > attend until I was confident I'd be available and could RSVP. > > I suppose a secondary issue for some people is that they're averse to "being > on lists" (no LISP pun intended). I think part of the success of getting > reclusive LISPers on the "boston-lisp-announce" email list was guaranteeing > them they wouldn't be hassled. > > In case of Boston Lisp Meeting, with the sponsor of the food being ITA, > there might have been some ambiguity as to who sees the list, as opposed to > just a headcount. Probably anyone who has talked to independent Boston-area > IT recruiters in the last couple years is well aware of their aggressive and > sometimes sly pitching of ITA, so the term "ITA" might be associated in > their minds with wanting to be *removed* from lists. :) > > > Kent M Pitman wrote at 06/06/2008 11:29 PM: > >> > The previous Boston Lisp Meeting on May 28th was > >> > a success despite only 34 participants. > >> Could be the light rain, or maybe people are intimidated > >> by the high concentration of elite lisp hackers > > > > I'm rarely intimidated by either of these, but, FWIW, it could be the > advanced registration for food. From bitwize at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 08:33:28 2008 From: bitwize at gmail.com (Jeff Read) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 01:33:28 -0700 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: <004201c8c84e$b4cb0f30$1502a8c0@howard> References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> <004201c8c84e$b4cb0f30$1502a8c0@howard> Message-ID: <1137897b0806070133u62027fffkef44719122de4424@mail.gmail.com> 2008/6/6 Kent M Pitman : > > You're in the right town for that. But Lisp Machines are a big topic area. > That's kind of like a talk on "the C language and things it has been used > for". And the communities started off the same and then diverged into > different cultures such that everyone's reality was not even the same. But > even glossing that, there are issues of operating system, editing > environment file system, editing tools, mail reading, patching tools, > marketplace, etc. > One thing that interests me is the use of Lisp machines in high-performance computing tasks, like 3D rendering. I know it's been done, I just never heard any detail -- who did it, why they chose a LispM over conventional architecture, the gains and setbacks they faced, etc. That would be a really cool thing to hear discussion about. --Jeff From dlw at alum.mit.edu Sat Jun 7 12:55:56 2008 From: dlw at alum.mit.edu (Daniel Weinreb) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 08:55:56 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: <004201c8c84e$b4cb0f30$1502a8c0@howard> References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> <004201c8c84e$b4cb0f30$1502a8c0@howard> Message-ID: <484A855C.5020107@alum.mit.edu> Kent, Kent M Pitman wrote: > > > One thing I was thinking about that would be really interesting > > > would be a talk about Lisp Machines, > > > > You're in the right town for that. But Lisp Machines are a big topic > area. That's kind of like a talk on "the C language and things it has > been used for". And the communities started off the same and then > diverged into different cultures such that everyone's reality was not > even the same. But even glossing that, there are issues of operating > system, editing environment file system, editing tools, mail reading, > patching tools, marketplace, etc. > I think I could take a shot at giving an overview talk about Lisp machines: why they were thought of, how they fit into the context of the time, and a quick overview of the software and enough about the hardware to generally explain why they were "Lisp machines". I can do this without getting into "political" issues of the schisms and such. We could always have future talks focusing on more specific aspects, if people are interested. -- Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bitwize at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 13:14:34 2008 From: bitwize at gmail.com (Jeff Read) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 06:14:34 -0700 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: <484A855C.5020107@alum.mit.edu> References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> <004201c8c84e$b4cb0f30$1502a8c0@howard> <484A855C.5020107@alum.mit.edu> Message-ID: <1137897b0806070614w572df32dm133d96be5aee29c4@mail.gmail.com> 2008/6/7 Daniel Weinreb : > I think I could take a shot at giving an overview talk about Lisp machines: > why > they were thought of, how they fit into the context of the time, and a quick > overview of the software and enough about the hardware to generally > explain why they were "Lisp machines". I can do this without > getting into "political" issues of the schisms and such. We could always > have > future talks focusing on more specific aspects, if people are interested. > I'd certainly appreciate hearing your words on the topic, Dan. --Jeff From kreuter at progn.net Sat Jun 7 12:20:12 2008 From: kreuter at progn.net (Richard M Kreuter) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 08:20:12 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:29:51 EDT." <653bea160806062129w359b0f6fr41b237aa4e2d0a72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2491.1212841212@progn.net> "Far?" writes: > 2008/6/6 Neil Van Dyke : > > > I almost mentioned the food RSVP thing myself, so I'm glad Kent > > mentioned it. > > > > The main issue is that registering for food was a hurdle and a > > commitment, which meant that, being an engineer/process type, I > > deferred planning to attend until I was confident I'd be available > > and could RSVP. FWIW, in May and April (the months I've been counting for Far?), some people have cancelled at the last minute, some people have registered at the last minute (where "last minute" means here "after Far? ordered the food", about a day before the meeting), at least a couple people who registered and didn't cancel haven't shown up; and anyway I believe Far? plans for a few unannounced attendees. So I think that as long as everybody who plans to attend does register more than a day ahead of time, there will probably be enough food for everybody who shows up. As for the email privacy concerns, if that's an issue for some people, I could cobble together some web form that didn't take an email address. Please contact me privately at the address if you would use such a web form and won't send a message to boston-lisp-meeting-register. Thanks, RmK From dlw at alum.mit.edu Sat Jun 7 13:35:46 2008 From: dlw at alum.mit.edu (Daniel Weinreb) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:35:46 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Next Boston Lisp Meeting: Wednesday June 25th 2008, 6pm at NEU Shillman Hall Room 135 In-Reply-To: <004201c8c84e$b4cb0f30$1502a8c0@howard> References: <653bea160806052207k100d7476q480b62a20c706743@mail.gmail.com> <004201c8c84e$b4cb0f30$1502a8c0@howard> Message-ID: <484A8EB2.6010701@alum.mit.edu> Kent M Pitman wrote: > > > > > One thing I was thinking about that would be really interesting > > > would be a talk about Lisp Machines, > > > > You're in the right town for that. But Lisp Machines are a big topic > area. That's kind of like a talk on "the C language and things it has > been used for". And the communities started off the same and then > diverged into different cultures such that everyone's reality was not > even the same. But even glossing that, there are issues of operating > system, editing environment file system, editing tools, mail reading, > patching tools, marketplace, etc. > > I could give an overview talk. If there's interest in specific areas, we could always find people to do other, more specific talks. -- Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kreuter at progn.net Tue Jun 17 13:24:40 2008 From: kreuter at progn.net (Richard M Kreuter) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:24:40 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Reminder to RSVP for next week's meeting Message-ID: <7636.1213709080@progn.net> Hi, If you plan to attend next Wednesday's boston-lisp meeting [1], please send a message to boston-lisp-meeting-register at common-lisp.net, so we can order enough food for everybody. Thanks, RmK [1] Note that we'll meet at Northeastern University this time. See http://fare.livejournal.com/126150.html From fahree at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 13:42:19 2008 From: fahree at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Far=E9?=) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:42:19 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Reminder to RSVP for next week's meeting In-Reply-To: <7636.1213709080@progn.net> References: <7636.1213709080@progn.net> Message-ID: <653bea160806170642t6fb4ebebl11545b05b5f44110@mail.gmail.com> Note that registration is optional. Planned order will be Thai food. We will additionally order pizza at the last minute for people who come unannounced (or you can register and tell us you prefer pizza, and/or specify vegetarian preference, etc.). And yes, please note the location. [ Fran?ois-Ren? ?VB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ] Can anyone squash this butterfly in Tokyo? I'm sick with its flapping wings changing the outcome of my life. 2008/6/17 Richard M Kreuter : > Hi, > > If you plan to attend next Wednesday's boston-lisp meeting [1], please > send a message to boston-lisp-meeting-register at common-lisp.net, so we > can order enough food for everybody. > > Thanks, > RmK > > [1] Note that we'll meet at Northeastern University this time. See > > http://fare.livejournal.com/126150.html From didier at lrde.epita.fr Mon Jun 23 14:04:35 2008 From: didier at lrde.epita.fr (Didier Verna) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:04:35 +0200 Subject: [boston-lisp] [ELW'08] Important news Message-ID: Hello, here are some important news on the 5th European Lisp Workshop, July 7, Pahpos, Cyprus, co-located with ECOOP 2008: * The paper selection process is over; the final programme will be available shortly. Stay tuned for the upcoming call for participation! * We now have the abstracts for the two keynote presentations: Lisp for the 21st Century (Mark Tarver) As Lisp reaches its 50th anniversary, the talk looks at some of the reasons why Lisp has not found a wider acceptance amongst the programming community. Part of the reasons lie in a vicious cycle between education and industry within which Lisp is trapped. One solution is the L21 project - to produce a rationalized and revised update of Lisp for the C21. Qi fits many of the constraints of the L21 project. The talk concludes on what needs to be done within Qi and the Lisp world to bring Lisp to the center stage. A Detailed Look at the Lisp Nature of Clojure (Rich Hickey) The small essential core of Lisp makes dialects easy to define and implement. Most dialects are viewed skeptically by the community, as their features can be realized via the extensibility mechanisms of Scheme or Common Lisp. However, functional programming, interoperability, extensibility and concurrency objectives call for different decisions at many Lisp design points. Meeting those objectives in a Lisp dialect testifies to the continued vitality of the Lisp idea. This talk will provide a rationale for Clojure as a substantive and unique dialect of Lisp, and details of its design and implementation on the JVM. * Courtesy of EPITA, the workshop will have printed proceedings. A PDF version will also be made available on the website after the event. * Finally, please note that the official ELW website, http://elw.bknr.net, now contains an archive of all past occurrences of the workshop. -- 5th European Lisp Workshop at ECOOP 2008, July 7: http://elw.bknr.net/2008/ Didier Verna, didier at lrde.epita.fr, http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier EPITA / LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel.+33 (0)1 44 08 01 85 94276 Le Kremlin-Bic?tre, France Fax.+33 (0)1 53 14 59 22 didier at xemacs.org From axch at mit.edu Fri Jun 27 22:39:39 2008 From: axch at mit.edu (Alexey Radul) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:39:39 -0400 Subject: [boston-lisp] Scheme Choices are online Message-ID: Hello, Those of you who came to the March meeting may remember that I talked about a spare-time project of mine to catalog the choices that Scheme implementations make. Finally following up on suggestions received then, and succumbing to further prodding, I have posted a collection of preliminary results on the Web. For a good time, browse http://web.mit.edu/~axch/www/scheme/choices.html Cheers, ~Alexey P.S. And let me know what you think! From didier at lrde.epita.fr Mon Jun 30 14:57:28 2008 From: didier at lrde.epita.fr (Didier Verna) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:57:28 +0200 Subject: [boston-lisp] CfParticipation: ELW'08, July 7, Paphos, Cyprus Message-ID: +------------------------------------------------------------+ | CALL FOR PARTICIPATION | | 5th European Lisp Workshop | | July 7, Paphos, Cyprus - co-located with ECOOP 2008 | +------------------------------------------------------------+ The 5th European Lisp Workshop will be held on July 7, in Paphos, Cyprus, as part of this year's European Conference on Object-Oriented Programming (ECOOP 2008). The workshop will feature two keynote presentations: "Lisp for the 21st Century", by Mark Tarver, and "A detailed look at the Lisp Nature of Clojure", by Rich Hickey. We have also accepted four scientific papers about description logic systems, data parallelism for quantum simulation, interactive code generation, and a rant about make-method-lambda. Get all the programme details at http://elw2008.bknr.net/programme. Registration ************ Main registration is with ECOOP via the following page: https://cyprusconferences.org/ecoop08/form_ecoop.htm There is still room for attending the workshop, so if you want to participate, please contact me by email as well (didier at lrde.epita.fr). -- 5th European Lisp Workshop at ECOOP 2008, July 7: http://elw.bknr.net/2008/ Didier Verna, didier at lrde.epita.fr, http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier EPITA / LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel.+33 (0)1 44 08 01 85 94276 Le Kremlin-Bic?tre, France Fax.+33 (0)1 53 14 59 22 didier at xemacs.org