I can't seem to find anything at http://www.fractalconcept.com:8000/svn/public/ for either cl-typesetting or cl-pdf. Has something happened to the Subversion server? -- James A. Crippen <james at unlambda.com> Lambda Unlimited 61.2204N, 149.8964W Recursion 'R' Us Anchorage, Alaska, USA, Earth Y = \f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx))