From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Tue Feb 3 08:48:44 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 10:48:44 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] Lisp Education CD as ISO project In-Reply-To: <1075495889.535.136.camel@sushi> References: <1075435686.612.58.camel@sushi> <1075495889.535.136.camel@sushi> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Heow Eide-Goodman wrote: > I just got off the phone with my lawyer guy, and she :-) assured me that > it wouldn't be a problem. To simplify the talk she likened it to the > relationship that a producer has to a retailer. Good, good. > I'm currently tapping the intelect of LispNYC for a better more > perminant name, the ideas so far: Just a though: do you want this to be an umbrella for LispNYC projects, or do you want to keep this separate? Cheers, -- Nikodemus Siivola From heow at alphageeksinc.com Wed Feb 4 18:29:44 2004 From: heow at alphageeksinc.com (Heow Eide-Goodman) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:29:44 -0000 Subject: [admin] Lisp Education CD as ISO project In-Reply-To: References: <1075435686.612.58.camel@sushi> <1075495889.535.136.camel@sushi> Message-ID: <1075919522.604.84.camel@sushi> I'm still waiting on the license revisions but have settled on... Lisp Resource Kit ...as the name of the project. If you guys are comfortable we can get set up but not link it in untill everything is in order. I'll also thank Common-Lisp.net on the CD, I mean kit. > Just a though: do you want this to be an umbrella for LispNYC projects, or > do you want to keep this separate? I'd just say to keep it seperate. One of the main reasons is that LispNYC, being a volunteer organization, may have projects that come and go. This has been one of the constant ones. I'd also not want to confuse anyone regarding licensing as most of our work is BSDed or GPLed. - Heow On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 03:48, Nikodemus Siivola wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Heow Eide-Goodman wrote: > > > I just got off the phone with my lawyer guy, and she :-) assured me that > > it wouldn't be a problem. To simplify the talk she likened it to the > > relationship that a producer has to a retailer. > > Good, good. > > > I'm currently tapping the intelect of LispNYC for a better more > > perminant name, the ideas so far: > > Just a though: do you want this to be an umbrella for LispNYC projects, or > do you want to keep this separate? > > Cheers, > > -- Nikodemus Siivola From erik at nittin.net Thu Feb 5 03:18:03 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:18:03 -0500 Subject: [admin] Lisp Education CD as ISO project In-Reply-To: <1075919522.604.84.camel@sushi> References: <1075435686.612.58.camel@sushi> <1075495889.535.136.camel@sushi> <1075919522.604.84.camel@sushi> Message-ID: On Feb 4, 2004, at 1:32 PM, Heow Eide-Goodman wrote: > I'm still waiting on the license revisions but have settled on... > > Lisp Resource Kit > > ...as the name of the project. If you guys are comfortable we can get > set up but not link it in untill everything is in order. That name is fine except that Linux will only allow fifteen characters in a group name and project names are also group names (makes permissions straightforward). How about lisp-res-kit as a project name? You can call it Lisp Resource Kit on its webpages, of course. Erik. From edi at agharta.de Sun Feb 1 01:00:01 2004 From: edi at agharta.de (Edi Weitz) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 02:00:01 +0100 Subject: [admin] Re: none In-Reply-To: <497702D6-543C-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> (Erik Enge's message of "Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:24:51 -0500") References: <497702D6-543C-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:24:51 -0500, Erik Enge wrote: > > Any news on that one? > > Done (sorry for the massive delay). You should have an email with > your password. Thank you very much! No reason to apologize, I'm glad that I have the chance to use your services. Cheers, Edi. From erik at nittin.net Tue Feb 10 21:54:17 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:54:17 -0500 Subject: [admin] (no subject) Message-ID: Brian Mastenbrook wrote: > I'd like to request hosting for a new project: cl-blog, a blog engine in > CL using Araneida. I'll be deriving it from lisppaste2, and hopefully > lisppaste can become a special case of cl-blog (no authentication, no > HTML, fixed-width, IRC announcement). What license? Other than needing to know the license I approve.. Erik. From bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu Tue Feb 10 22:36:00 2004 From: bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu (Brian Mastenbrook) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:36:00 -0500 Subject: [admin] Re: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <806B4860-5C19-11D8-8A5C-000A9599AF88@cs.indiana.edu> On Feb 10, 2004, at 4:54 PM, Erik Enge wrote: > Brian Mastenbrook wrote: > > > I'd like to request hosting for a new project: cl-blog, a blog > engine in > > CL using Araneida. I'll be deriving it from lisppaste2, and hopefully > > lisppaste can become a special case of cl-blog (no authentication, no > > HTML, fixed-width, IRC announcement). > > What license? Oops! MIT, just like lisppaste2. Sorry about that :-) -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/ From mikel at evins.net Sun Feb 1 18:05:41 2004 From: mikel at evins.net (mikel evins) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:05:41 -0800 Subject: [admin] project proposal: Clotho Message-ID: <3F97F12E-54E1-11D8-A4AB-000A958E5B06@evins.net> full name: mikel evins description of project: Clotho is a project to build a Lisp development environment for Mac OS X. The project's goal is to build an IDE that is excellent both by traditional Lisp-programming standards and by current Mac OS X programming standards. As an excellent Lisp environment it will provide multiple listeners, image-dumping, interactive inspectors, stepper, and debuggers, and integrated documentation features. As an excellent Mac OS X IDE it will support access to Objective C classes and methods, automatic construction of proper application bundles, integration with Services, the Pasteboard, and other features of the Cocoa application frameworks, resource-based UI construction, and easy access to Apple's developer documentation. Clotho is associated with the mac-lisp-ide mailing list hosted at common-lisp.net. members: mikel evins (mikel at evins.net) Brian Mastenbrook (bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu) name of project: clotho license: LLGPL --me From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Mon Feb 2 08:11:44 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 09:11:44 +0100 Subject: [admin] project proposal: Clotho In-Reply-To: <3F97F12E-54E1-11D8-A4AB-000A958E5B06@evins.net> References: <3F97F12E-54E1-11D8-A4AB-000A958E5B06@evins.net> Message-ID: mikel evins writes: > [...] Sounds great! For my part, I approve. Regards, Mario. From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Tue Feb 3 09:17:48 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:17:48 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] project proposal: Clotho In-Reply-To: <3F97F12E-54E1-11D8-A4AB-000A958E5B06@evins.net> References: <3F97F12E-54E1-11D8-A4AB-000A958E5B06@evins.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, mikel evins wrote: > name of project: > > clotho Approved! Cheers, -- Nikodemus Siivola From erik at nittin.net Mon Feb 2 19:43:07 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 14:43:07 -0500 Subject: [admin] project proposal: Clotho Message-ID: <06087CC0-55B8-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> mikel evins wrote: > name of project: > > clotho > > license: > > LLGPL Approved! Erik. From mikel at evins.net Mon Feb 2 23:09:01 2004 From: mikel at evins.net (mikel evins) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:09:01 -0800 Subject: [admin] project proposal: Clotho In-Reply-To: <06087CC0-55B8-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> References: <06087CC0-55B8-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> Message-ID: On Feb 2, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Erik Enge wrote: > mikel evins wrote: > > > name of project: > > > > clotho > > > > license: > > > > LLGPL > > Approved! > Solid! How do I get access to the server directories and cvs? --me From erik at nittin.net Tue Feb 3 20:07:26 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:07:26 -0500 Subject: [admin] project proposal: Clotho In-Reply-To: References: <06087CC0-55B8-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> Message-ID: <964EE062-5684-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 2, 2004, at 6:09 PM, mikel evins wrote: > Solid! How do I get access to the server directories and cvs? I'll have your account created in seconds. Give me your PGP/GPG public key. Erik. From mikel at evins.net Tue Feb 3 20:48:16 2004 From: mikel at evins.net (mikel evins) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 12:48:16 -0800 Subject: PGP public key (was Re: [admin] project proposal: Clotho) In-Reply-To: <964EE062-5684-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> References: <06087CC0-55B8-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> <964EE062-5684-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> Message-ID: <4A600C02-568A-11D8-8C08-000A958E5B06@evins.net> On Feb 3, 2004, at 12:07 PM, Erik Enge wrote: > > On Feb 2, 2004, at 6:09 PM, mikel evins wrote: > >> Solid! How do I get access to the server directories and cvs? > > I'll have your account created in seconds. Give me your PGP/GPG > public key. > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGP 8.0.3 mQGiBEAgCDoRBADd0FpakqYNB+LR3I6XGR2QDHxNmDv38kQnZUP0vdaW+oyQeaFJ +siczjXD3EDOEYure6kmoDXxZvhXPn97y9JHodRxWGKUQWxSziLZlWP7+ehIQzsg nuqzCy9hBrJRMKoGy/ee5ZF8lOVnxbnVIvE7tyOi4K4AX/jKRGiPxlDX/QCg/2hS CcsUtAnKkSUbQzcSdBHzEcUD/RXSQfYPsmzTnf3FBa28XAl8yz0t07B0VuT8ZeYa hQS/XLfZa011jnUQEUOUNVi/AnFBhbvIU2Km4BCtdgGikTQZuT4BZ0PAYECL5TZQ RjWXS/8kYnQwdCUIlK29AtcpKOQzHjWeXzyH2K/d0MC3DsPLZTD4S7dYeiQA456F WeQ6BADM8duVGO9ksQamdly8gR69Cz1MiUbBzuKUWItAIKDpbPwNZg0SYy2BIM98 k/kbU77jYtpSJAZj4dt2x267wWHO/scAd6+S9Qs7NFm2+8XD/7Q9dQc9O4pVOOMt X1kvMPb/lC49xXjmVpM8H59UeL4H48RlqN+ZBli6DZHlaFFBG7QdbWlrZWwgZXZp bnMgPG1pa2VsQGV2aW5zLm5ldD6JAFcEEBECABcFAkAgCDoHCwkIBwMCCgIZAQUb AwAAAAAKCRCPkJYeiIFeLvk1AKCwDBr92MGC7WShRaJfstuzaqnubwCdEssSUyAA q7uyIx78jmJc2XFahKS5Ag0EQCAIOhAIAPZCV7cIfwgXcqK61qlC8wXo+VMROU+2 8W65Szgg2gGnVqMU6Y9AVfPQB8bLQ6mUrfdMZIZJ+AyDvWXpF9Sh01D49Vlf3HZS Tz09jdvOmeFXklnN/biudE/F/Ha8g8VHMGHOfMlm/xX5u/2RXscBqtNbno2gpXI6 1Brwv0YAWCvl9Ij9WE5J280gtJ3kkQc2azNsOA1FHQ98iLMcfFstjvbzySPAQ/Cl WxiNjrtVjLhdONM0/XwXV0OjHRhs3jMhLLUq/zzhsSlAGBGNfISnCnLWhsQDGcgH KXrKlQzZlp+r0ApQmwJG0wg9ZqRdQZ+cfL2JSyIZJrqrol7DVekyCzsAAgIIAK4l hOPUl0wG+0WJs/TlGuSVdGG/nMkNRCLqqz0lTggON54Zew1vzG6NUyrHDPN3bWvA lpHah2yZkW0WQjamEQf8hAwHwlUKAZCC831hihvyehYj8ECs7tblauCagc2cmwAL 5Gj5hpPBp491BgX+L9zradWD8fkStvmgD9+c3GVMZUA5dyTSNPABxEh2LjQzNBhY S2py6g0Ujq66dnZeFL37JdemXubpabm89Y31ctcJE5zcNm0G8GpudYzXFLlMcGaY ABhyYrvMmvmoobzgLXKNKQaHvoiUQT/lEwkdec7WwFEOZM1RIiu6lVMNOwBm/A1S 8M/SuTV7A2VhGzJ+dmGJAEwEGBECAAwFAkAgCDoFGwwAAAAACgkQj5CWHoiBXi6K SgCgh8BR7rxA07psTpEBVBq2yuC6kgAAoJVPi26EUJYS8pQUnoLXerwBi2vP =gBvc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From mikel at evins.net Tue Feb 3 22:29:05 2004 From: mikel at evins.net (mikel evins) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:29:05 -0800 Subject: PGP public key (was Re: [admin] project proposal: Clotho) In-Reply-To: <4A600C02-568A-11D8-8C08-000A958E5B06@evins.net> References: <06087CC0-55B8-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> <964EE062-5684-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> <4A600C02-568A-11D8-8C08-000A958E5B06@evins.net> Message-ID: <6059B22E-5698-11D8-B4CF-000A958E5B06@evins.net> On Feb 3, 2004, at 12:48 PM, mikel evins wrote: > > On Feb 3, 2004, at 12:07 PM, Erik Enge wrote: > >> >> On Feb 2, 2004, at 6:09 PM, mikel evins wrote: >> >>> Solid! How do I get access to the server directories and cvs? >> >> I'll have your account created in seconds. Give me your PGP/GPG >> public key. >> > So how do I log in to the server? --me From erik at nittin.net Tue Feb 3 22:32:12 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:32:12 -0500 Subject: PGP public key (was Re: [admin] project proposal: Clotho) In-Reply-To: <6059B22E-5698-11D8-B4CF-000A958E5B06@evins.net> References: <06087CC0-55B8-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> <964EE062-5684-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> <4A600C02-568A-11D8-8C08-000A958E5B06@evins.net> <6059B22E-5698-11D8-B4CF-000A958E5B06@evins.net> Message-ID: On Feb 3, 2004, at 5:29 PM, mikel evins wrote: > So how do I log in to the server? $ ssh mevins at common-lisp.net should do it. Erik. From root at common-lisp.net Tue Feb 3 20:04:23 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:04:23 -0500 Subject: [admin] added clotho; owned by mevins Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.03.15.04. From dan_d4n at hotmail.com Wed Feb 4 05:49:58 2004 From: dan_d4n at hotmail.com (Dan B) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 05:49:58 +0000 Subject: [admin] Project Proposal Message-ID: Hi there, I'd like to register a project with common-lisp.net, if possible. I am a beginner\hobbyist programmer, and I've been fiddling with lisp for some time, but I'd like to get a projects of some sorts started so I can actually learn something and hopefully contribute to the community :) Name: Dan Beauchesne Project Description: Console RPG written in Common Lisp. I would like it to be very story driven, or at least moreso than current console RPG's. Short term goals: basic functions one would find in an average text-rpg (ie. battle, movement, armor\weapons\items) Long term goals: Implementation of storyline which directly affects the player; team based battle engine with friendly NPC's Project Name: Innen Project Members: Just me, for now. License: BSD Thanks for your consideration, -Dan Beauchesne _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 4 07:11:54 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:11:54 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] Project Proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Dan B wrote: > Project Name: Innen > License: BSD Approved, assuming it's BSD sans advertising clause. Cheers, -- Nikodemus Siivola From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Wed Feb 4 08:39:38 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 09:39:38 +0100 Subject: [admin] Project Proposal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi! Dan B writes: > [...] Sounds good. For my part, I approve. Regards, Mario. From erik at nittin.net Wed Feb 4 13:37:24 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:37:24 -0500 Subject: [admin] Project Proposal Message-ID: <43EC4532-5717-11D8-915D-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> Dan B wrote: > Project Name: Innen Approved (is it BSD sans the ads?). Send me your GPG/PGP public key. Erik. From root at common-lisp.net Thu Feb 5 03:19:29 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:19:29 -0500 Subject: [admin] added innen; owned by dbeauchesne Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.04.22.19. From root at common-lisp.net Thu Feb 5 15:03:05 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 10:03:05 -0500 Subject: [admin] added lisp-res-kit; owned by hgoodman Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.05.10.03. From erik at nittin.net Thu Feb 5 15:16:37 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:16:37 -0500 Subject: [admin] Lisp Resource Kit Message-ID: <4A83EC27-57EE-11D8-B941-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> Off-list Heow said lisp-res-kit was ok so I went ahead and created the project. Erik. From bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu Tue Feb 10 17:53:27 2004 From: bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu (Brian Mastenbrook) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 12:53:27 -0500 Subject: [admin] Project request: cl-blog Message-ID: <07C4A82E-5BF2-11D8-8351-000A9599AF88@cs.indiana.edu> Hello all, I'd like to request hosting for a new project: cl-blog, a blog engine in CL using Araneida. I'll be deriving it from lisppaste2, and hopefully lisppaste can become a special case of cl-blog (no authentication, no HTML, fixed-width, IRC announcement). Brian -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/ From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 11 08:28:16 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:28:16 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] Project request: cl-blog In-Reply-To: <07C4A82E-5BF2-11D8-8351-000A9599AF88@cs.indiana.edu> References: <07C4A82E-5BF2-11D8-8351-000A9599AF88@cs.indiana.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Brian Mastenbrook wrote: > I'd like to request hosting for a new project: cl-blog, a blog engine > in CL using Araneida. I'll be deriving it from lisppaste2, and > hopefully lisppaste can become a special case of cl-blog (no > authentication, no HTML, fixed-width, IRC announcement). What license? Approved, providing a DFSG compatible license. Cheers, -- Nikodemus From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Wed Feb 11 09:29:52 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:29:52 +0100 Subject: [admin] Project request: cl-blog In-Reply-To: References: <07C4A82E-5BF2-11D8-8351-000A9599AF88@cs.indiana.edu> Message-ID: Nikodemus Siivola writes: > On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Brian Mastenbrook wrote: > > > I'd like to request hosting for a new project: cl-blog, a blog engine > > in CL using Araneida. I'll be deriving it from lisppaste2, and > > hopefully lisppaste can become a special case of cl-blog (no > > authentication, no HTML, fixed-width, IRC announcement). > > What license? Approved, providing a DFSG compatible license. Ditto. Regards, Mario. From bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu Wed Feb 11 12:40:19 2004 From: bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu (Brian Mastenbrook) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 07:40:19 -0500 Subject: [admin] Project request: cl-blog In-Reply-To: References: <07C4A82E-5BF2-11D8-8351-000A9599AF88@cs.indiana.edu> Message-ID: <73A7A6FA-5C8F-11D8-9DFA-000A9599AF88@cs.indiana.edu> On Feb 11, 2004, at 3:28 AM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote: > On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Brian Mastenbrook wrote: > >> I'd like to request hosting for a new project: cl-blog, a blog engine >> in CL using Araneida. I'll be deriving it from lisppaste2, and >> hopefully lisppaste can become a special case of cl-blog (no >> authentication, no HTML, fixed-width, IRC announcement). > > What license? Approved, providing a DFSG compatible license. > > Cheers, > > -- Nikodemus Guess you folks missed the other reply I sent to the list yesterday? It'd be under the MIT license, just like lisppaste2. -- Brian Mastenbrook bmastenb at cs.indiana.edu http://cs.indiana.edu/~bmastenb/ From strandh at labri.fr Wed Feb 11 05:24:51 2004 From: strandh at labri.fr (Robert STRANDH) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 06:24:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: [admin] request for hosting the Gsharp project Message-ID: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> Hello, I would like to have a project of mine (Gsharp) hosted at your site, if possible. Here is a project description: Gsharp is an interactive, extensible editor for musical scores. The goal of the project is to provide, as free software, an interactive score editor giving a high-quality presentation on the screen as well as on paper output This is a very ambitious project that has been going on for years, mainly because I only work on it part time, but also that the design of such a program is very difficult and I have had several bad starts and made several bad design decisions in the past. This time, things are looking much better, although the program is nowhere near completion. Gsharp is now a pure Common Lisp application using CLIM, the Common Lisp Interface Manager, as its library for managing the graphic user interface. Members will initially be me (Robert Strandh, strandh at labri.fr) and Christophe Rhodes (csr21 at cam.ac.uk). The license is GPL or LGPL according to whether the code is directly related to the application or to reusable libraries. Thanks in advance, -- Robert Strandh --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 11 08:36:01 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:36:01 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] request for hosting the Gsharp project In-Reply-To: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> References: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Robert STRANDH wrote: > I would like to have a project of mine (Gsharp) hosted at your site, > if possible. Approved. > The license is GPL or LGPL according to whether the code is directly > related to the application or to reusable libraries. A commendable practise. Have you considered LLGPL for the library parts instead to avoid confusion? Cheers, -- Nikodemus From strandh at labri.fr Wed Feb 11 09:50:32 2004 From: strandh at labri.fr (Robert STRANDH) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:50:32 +0100 Subject: [admin] request for hosting the Gsharp project In-Reply-To: References: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> Message-ID: <16425.64232.189847.607494@serveur5.labri.fr> Nikodemus Siivola writes: > On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Robert STRANDH wrote: > > > I would like to have a project of mine (Gsharp) hosted at your site, > > if possible. > > Approved. Thanks! > A commendable practise. Have you considered LLGPL for the library parts > instead to avoid confusion? Hmmm. I guess I am out of touch. I do not even know what the LLGPL is! -- Robert Strandh --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 11 09:54:44 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:54:44 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] request for hosting the Gsharp project In-Reply-To: <16425.64232.189847.607494@serveur5.labri.fr> References: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> <16425.64232.189847.607494@serveur5.labri.fr> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Robert STRANDH wrote: > Hmmm. I guess I am out of touch. I do not even know what the LLGPL > is! Lisp Lesser General Public License. It's LGPL with an additional preamble that clarifies it for Lisp. http://opensource.franz.com/preamble.html Cheers, -- Nikodemus Siivola From strandh at labri.fr Wed Feb 11 11:39:41 2004 From: strandh at labri.fr (Robert STRANDH) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:39:41 +0100 Subject: [admin] request for hosting the Gsharp project In-Reply-To: References: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> <16425.64232.189847.607494@serveur5.labri.fr> Message-ID: <16426.5245.303156.600193@serveur5.labri.fr> Nikodemus Siivola writes: > On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Robert STRANDH wrote: > > > Hmmm. I guess I am out of touch. I do not even know what the LLGPL > > is! > > Lisp Lesser General Public License. It's LGPL with an additional preamble > that clarifies it for Lisp. > > http://opensource.franz.com/preamble.html Oh, that one. I don't think so. That one makes it possible for anyone to make proprietary improvements to the library. -- Robert Strandh --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 11 11:58:12 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:58:12 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] request for hosting the Gsharp project In-Reply-To: <16426.5245.303156.600193@serveur5.labri.fr> References: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> <16425.64232.189847.607494@serveur5.labri.fr> <16426.5245.303156.600193@serveur5.labri.fr> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Robert STRANDH wrote: > > http://opensource.franz.com/preamble.html > > Oh, that one. I don't think so. That one makes it possible for > anyone to make proprietary improvements to the library. DISCLAIMER: this is me personally, not a common-lisp.net admin speaking, and LGPL is fine to use with library parts of Gsharp. I assume you refer to this: "It is permitted to add proprietary source code to the Library, but it must be done in a way such that the Library will still run without that proprietary code present." However, I don't see how plain vanilla LGPL would prohibit eg: ;; this is proprietary (load "lgpled-library") (load "my-proprietary-patch") The LLGPL says "If any of the functions or classes in the Library are redefined in other files, then those redefinitions ARE considered a work based on the Library.", which explicitly prohibits the above. As far I can tell the only "bad" thing LLGPL allows is to distribute a modified version of the library using eg. patented algorithms instead of the original ones, but even then the original algorithms would have to be retained. What am I missing? Cheers, -- Nikodemus Siivola From strandh at labri.fr Wed Feb 11 12:41:07 2004 From: strandh at labri.fr (Robert STRANDH) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:41:07 +0100 Subject: [admin] request for hosting the Gsharp project In-Reply-To: References: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> <16425.64232.189847.607494@serveur5.labri.fr> <16426.5245.303156.600193@serveur5.labri.fr> Message-ID: <16426.8931.262525.973349@serveur5.labri.fr> Nikodemus Siivola writes: > What am I missing? I am not totally sure you are missing anything. I just got nervous about that clause. I realize the LGPL does not explicitly prevent what your example shows, but I am hoping the spirit of the LGPL does. -- Robert Strandh --------------------------------------------------------------------- Greenspun's Tenth Rule of Programming: any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 11 12:42:50 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:42:50 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] request for hosting the Gsharp project In-Reply-To: <16426.8931.262525.973349@serveur5.labri.fr> References: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> <16425.64232.189847.607494@serveur5.labri.fr> <16426.5245.303156.600193@serveur5.labri.fr> <16426.8931.262525.973349@serveur5.labri.fr> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Robert STRANDH wrote: > about that clause. I realize the LGPL does not explicitly prevent > what your example shows, but I am hoping the spirit of the LGPL does. Fair enough. Cheers, -- Nikodemus From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Wed Feb 11 09:32:44 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:32:44 +0100 Subject: [admin] request for hosting the Gsharp project In-Reply-To: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> References: <20040211052451.E1D192B10A@serveur5.labri.fr> Message-ID: Hi, Robert STRANDH writes: > I would like to have a project of mine (Gsharp) hosted at your site, > if possible. For my part, I approve. Regards, Mario. From mb at bese.it Wed Feb 11 08:11:35 2004 From: mb at bese.it (Marco Baringer) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:11:35 +0100 Subject: [admin] announce@common-lisp.net Message-ID: would announce at common-lisp.net like a moderator? -- Marco Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget the perfect offering. There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. -Leonard Cohen From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 11 08:44:08 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:44:08 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] announce@common-lisp.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Marco Baringer wrote: > would announce at common-lisp.net like a moderator? It could probably use one. The current setup of the list is also quite screwed in almost every possible way. Thinking about it, I think that announce at common-lisp.net should maybe not include all the *-announce lists on clnet after all, since they tend to be announced on clump anyways, but rather: * Announcements of new projects / content on Common-lisp.net. * Weekly (?) summary of releases in clnet. (Probably culled from *-announce at common-lisp.net.) * Downtime notices, etc. Also post-fact in case of unexpected troubles. To make things crystal clear, I for one would bu quite OK with Marco as a moderator / admin for the list, either in it's current format or some other. Cheers, -- Nikodemus From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Wed Feb 11 12:31:52 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:31:52 +0100 Subject: [admin] announce@common-lisp.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nikodemus Siivola writes: > I for one would bu quite OK with Marco as a moderator / admin for > the list, either in it's current format or some other. I agree with this. It is a good idea. Regards, Mario. From mb at bese.it Wed Feb 25 11:00:24 2004 From: mb at bese.it (Marco Baringer) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:00:24 +0100 Subject: [admin] announce@common-lisp.net Message-ID: I would like to repeat my offer to moderate announce at common-lisp.net (i'd be nicer if all annoucment lists where moderated by the individual developers though). Slightly related to this I have a question about mailman: Is there way i can, via email, tell mailman to drop a message instead of having to keep going to that horrible web interface? -- Marco Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget the perfect offering. There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. -Leonard Cohen From erik at nittin.net Wed Feb 25 10:58:42 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 05:58:42 -0500 Subject: [admin] announce@common-lisp.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92F7657E-6781-11D8-B0A0-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 25, 2004, at 6:00 AM, Marco Baringer wrote: > Slightly related to this I have a question about mailman: Is there way > i can, via email, tell mailman to drop a message instead of having to > keep going to that horrible web interface? I believe you can just reply to it. Erik. From erik at nittin.net Wed Feb 25 10:59:21 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 05:59:21 -0500 Subject: [admin] announce@common-lisp.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 25, 2004, at 6:00 AM, Marco Baringer wrote: > I would like to repeat my offer to moderate announce at common-lisp.net > (i'd be nicer if all annoucment lists where moderated by the > individual developers though). Sorry, didn't address this one. Nikodemus is the announce guy so he'll probably reply. Erik. From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Thu Feb 26 07:16:17 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:16:17 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] announce@common-lisp.net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Marco Baringer wrote: > I would like to repeat my offer to moderate announce at common-lisp.net > (i'd be nicer if all annoucment lists where moderated by the individual > developers though). Oops, sorry. The issue sort of when hanging. As I earlier stated, I'm all for this. If this is ok with others, then Erik can just reset the list admin password and send it to Marco. (I can send it myself, but I don't have it handy right now -- over the weekend yes.) Cheers, -- Nikodemus Siivola From m_mommer at yahoo.com Thu Feb 26 07:45:04 2004 From: m_mommer at yahoo.com (Mario S. Mommer) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:45:04 -0000 Subject: [admin] announce@common-lisp.net References:

Message-ID: Nikodemus Siivola writes: > If this is ok with others, then Erik can just reset the list admin > password and send it to Marco. It is ok with me. From nablaone at o2.pl Wed Feb 11 09:56:53 2004 From: nablaone at o2.pl (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Rafa=B3_Strzali=F1ski?=) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:56:53 +0100 Subject: [admin] New project Message-ID: <20040211095652.99FB6D0B22@rekin6.o2.pl> Hi, Project name: log4lisp Description: Logging library for Lisp. Log4j ported to Lisp. License: BSD Project members: name: Rafal Strzalinski username: nabla -- Pozdrawiam, Rafal Strzalinski (nabla) http://nabla.prv.pl From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 11 09:59:10 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:59:10 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] New project In-Reply-To: <20040211095652.99FB6D0B22@rekin6.o2.pl> References: <20040211095652.99FB6D0B22@rekin6.o2.pl> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-2] Rafa? Strzali?ski wrote: > Project name: log4lisp > Description: Logging library for Lisp. Log4j ported to Lisp. > License: BSD > > Project members: > name: Rafal Strzalinski > username: nabla Approved. Cheers, -- Nikodemus Siivola From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Wed Feb 11 12:33:23 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:33:23 +0100 Subject: [admin] New project In-Reply-To: <20040211095652.99FB6D0B22@rekin6.o2.pl> References: <20040211095652.99FB6D0B22@rekin6.o2.pl> Message-ID: Rafa? Strzali?ski writes: > Project name: log4lisp > Description: Logging library for Lisp. Log4j ported to Lisp. > License: BSD Sounds good. For my part, I approve. From root at common-lisp.net Wed Feb 11 14:56:50 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:56:50 -0500 Subject: [admin] added cl-blog; owned by bmastenbrook Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.11.09.56. From root at common-lisp.net Wed Feb 11 15:23:11 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:23:11 -0500 Subject: [admin] added gsharp; owned by rstrandh Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.11.10.23. From root at common-lisp.net Wed Feb 11 15:40:05 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:40:05 -0500 Subject: [admin] added log4lisp; owned by rstrzalinski Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.11.10.40. From marcoxa at cs.nyu.edu Sun Feb 15 21:07:49 2004 From: marcoxa at cs.nyu.edu (Marco Antoniotti) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:07:49 -0500 Subject: [admin] DEFINER project Message-ID: <02C4E5EE-5FFB-11D8-AE0A-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu> Hi I'd like to host a tiny, yet cute project on COMMON-LISP.NET The idea of the DEFINER project is to provide a generalized DEF macro that will allow you to define anything within a CL implementation with a simplified, yet user programmable, syntax. E.g. (defun foo (x) ...) becomes (def function foo (x) ...) and (defstruct bar a s d) becomes (def structure bar a s d) etc etc. The idea is to allow people who want to define new things to do something like (def uffi:c-string-pointer ....) The license of the system will be BSD like. You can have a peek at the code at http://bioinformatics.nyu.edu/~marcoxa/common-lisp/code regards -- Marco Antoniotti http://bioinformatics.nyu.edu NYU Courant Bioinformatics Group tel. +1 - 212 - 998 3488 715 Broadway 10th FL fax. +1 - 212 - 998 3484 New York, NY, 10003, U.S.A. From erik at nittin.net Mon Feb 16 00:20:35 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:20:35 -0500 Subject: [admin] DEFINER project In-Reply-To: <02C4E5EE-5FFB-11D8-AE0A-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu> References: <02C4E5EE-5FFB-11D8-AE0A-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu> Message-ID: On Feb 15, 2004, at 4:07 PM, Marco Antoniotti wrote: > I'd like to host a tiny, yet cute project on COMMON-LISP.NET Looks neat. Though it is quite small. How do you feel about sticking this in the 'scratch' project? It would be a project to collect many smaller projects such as DEFINER until they become big enough to warrant their own projects? Erik. From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Mon Feb 16 08:11:42 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:11:42 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] DEFINER project In-Reply-To: <02C4E5EE-5FFB-11D8-AE0A-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu> References: <02C4E5EE-5FFB-11D8-AE0A-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Feb 2004, Marco Antoniotti wrote: > The idea of the DEFINER project is to provide a generalized DEF macro > that will allow you to define anything within a CL implementation with > a simplified, yet user programmable, syntax. E.g. > The license of the system will be BSD like. You can have a peek at the > code at http://bioinformatics.nyu.edu/~marcoxa/common-lisp/code Approved, -- Nikodemus Siivola From erik at nittin.net Mon Feb 16 00:31:36 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:31:36 -0500 Subject: [admin] DEFINER project In-Reply-To: <0312C2EA-6017-11D8-AE0A-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu> References: <0312C2EA-6017-11D8-AE0A-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu> Message-ID: <7ADE8CE2-6017-11D8-B941-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> [Marco forgot to put the list on CC last time so I'm including the whole email.] I'm ok making it a project, I just wanted to make sure you knew there were other options. Let's see what the other guys say. Unless it wasn't explicit: I approve. Erik. On Feb 15, 2004, at 7:28 PM, Marco Antoniotti wrote: > Well, > > it is true that it is very small right now. But I'd like a project on > its own because I already have a few ideas about how to expand it. > > Anyway, it is up to you. > > Thanks > > Marco > > > > > On Sunday, Feb 15, 2004, at 19:20 America/New_York, Erik Enge wrote: > >> >> On Feb 15, 2004, at 4:07 PM, Marco Antoniotti wrote: >> >>> I'd like to host a tiny, yet cute project on COMMON-LISP.NET >> >> Looks neat. Though it is quite small. How do you feel about >> sticking this in the 'scratch' project? >> It would be a project to collect many smaller projects such as >> DEFINER until they become big >> enough to warrant their own projects? >> >> Erik. >> > -- > Marco Antoniotti http://bioinformatics.nyu.edu > NYU Courant Bioinformatics Group tel. +1 - 212 - 998 3488 > 715 Broadway 10th FL fax. +1 - 212 - 998 3484 > New York, NY, 10003, U.S.A. > From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Mon Feb 16 13:44:01 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:44:01 +0100 Subject: [admin] DEFINER project In-Reply-To: <7ADE8CE2-6017-11D8-B941-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> References: <0312C2EA-6017-11D8-AE0A-000393A70920@cs.nyu.edu> <7ADE8CE2-6017-11D8-B941-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> Message-ID: Erik Enge writes: > I'm ok making it a project, I just wanted to make sure you knew there > were other > options. Let's see what the other guys say. > > Unless it wasn't explicit: I approve. I say: approved. A project of its own is ok with me. Marco, this looks futuristic! :) Regards, Mario. From root at common-lisp.net Mon Feb 16 15:04:25 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:04:25 -0500 Subject: [admin] added definer; owned by mantoniotti Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.16.10.04. From strandh at labri.fr Tue Feb 17 05:33:38 2004 From: strandh at labri.fr (Robert STRANDH) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 06:33:38 +0100 Subject: [admin] forwarded message from Robert E. Brown Message-ID: <16433.42930.729442.7500@serveur5.labri.fr> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: unknown sender Subject: no subject Date: no date Size: 1701 URL: From lam at tuxfamily.org Tue Feb 17 13:31:09 2004 From: lam at tuxfamily.org (Lam) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:31:09 +0100 Subject: [admin] New project : Log4cl Message-ID: hello, Project name: log4cl Description: Logging library for Lisp, like lo4j License: LLGPL It is like log4lisp, but according to Rafal Strzalinski, log4cl is more advanced, and log4cl is a better name I haven't any account on common-lisp.net Project members: name: Nicolas Lamirault username: lam Project members: name: Rafal Strzalinski username: nabla -- Nicolas Lamirault From erik at nittin.net Tue Feb 17 13:37:57 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:37:57 -0500 Subject: [admin] New project : Log4cl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F254B61-614E-11D8-8E83-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 17, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Lam wrote: > It is like log4lisp, but according to Rafal Strzalinski, log4cl is > more advanced, and log4cl is a better name I see Rafal mentioned as a member on log4cl. Does this mean he wants his other project to be deleted? Erik. From lam at tuxfamily.org Tue Feb 17 13:48:42 2004 From: lam at tuxfamily.org (Lam) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:48:42 +0100 Subject: [admin] New project : Log4cl In-Reply-To: <7F254B61-614E-11D8-8E83-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> (Erik Enge's message of "Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:37:57 -0500") References: <7F254B61-614E-11D8-8E83-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> Message-ID: Erik Enge writes: > On Feb 17, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Lam wrote: > >> It is like log4lisp, but according to Rafal Strzalinski, log4cl is >> more advanced, and log4cl is a better name > > I see Rafal mentioned as a member on log4cl. Does this mean he wants > his other project to be deleted? he says to me : >> I think log4cl is better name, log4lisp is too general.=20 >> Create log4cl. I'll remove log4lisp > Erik. -- Nicolas Lamirault From erik at nittin.net Tue Feb 17 14:15:02 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:15:02 -0500 Subject: [admin] New project : Log4cl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 17, 2004, at 8:31 AM, Lam wrote: > Project name: log4cl > Description: Logging library for Lisp, like lo4j > License: LLGPL I approve. Erik. From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Tue Feb 17 16:38:19 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:38:19 +0100 Subject: [admin] New project : Log4cl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lam writes: > Project name: log4cl > Description: Logging library for Lisp, like lo4j > License: LLGPL I approve. Regards, Mario. From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 18 06:27:13 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:27:13 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] New project : Log4cl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Lam wrote: > Project name: log4cl > Description: Logging library for Lisp, like lo4j > License: LLGPL Approved. Cheers, -- Nikodemus From yrashk at fp.org.ua Wed Feb 18 10:58:39 2004 From: yrashk at fp.org.ua (Yurii A. Rashkovskii) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:58:39 +0200 Subject: [admin] One more project hosting Message-ID: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Hello, I'm experimenting with CIL (MSIL) for Common Lisp implementation, and would like to host it on c-l.net, too :) Project name: clotnet Description: clotnet is an experimental project to let a) Common Lisp generate MSIL code b) Potentially, Common Lisp compiler to MSIL instruction set (so let CL run on .NET platform) License: BSD From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Wed Feb 18 11:22:50 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:22:50 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] One more project hosting In-Reply-To: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> References: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Yurii A. Rashkovskii wrote: > Project name: clotnet > > Description: clotnet is an experimental project to let > a) Common Lisp generate MSIL code > b) Potentially, Common Lisp compiler to MSIL instruction set (so let CL run > on .NET platform) > > License: BSD Approved, -- Nikodemus Siivola From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Wed Feb 18 13:36:48 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:36:48 +0100 Subject: [admin] One more project hosting In-Reply-To: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> References: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Message-ID: "Yurii A. Rashkovskii" writes: > Hello, > > I'm experimenting with CIL (MSIL) for Common Lisp implementation, and would > like to host it on c-l.net, too :) > > Project name: clotnet > > Description: clotnet is an experimental project to let > a) Common Lisp generate MSIL code > b) Potentially, Common Lisp compiler to MSIL instruction set (so let CL run > on .NET platform) > > License: BSD I approve. There is nothing really wrong with the name. However, you should perhaps look up the word 'clot' in dictionary.com. Regards, Mario. From yrashk at fp.org.ua Thu Feb 19 11:13:57 2004 From: yrashk at fp.org.ua (Yurii A. Rashkovskii) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 13:13:57 +0200 Subject: [admin] One more project hosting References: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Message-ID: <007301c3f6d9$88cb8040$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Mario, > > Project name: clotnet > > I approve. > > There is nothing really wrong with the name. However, you should > perhaps look up the word 'clot' in dictionary.com. Oh, thanks, I didn't knew that this word has meaning. Anyway, let it be 'clotnet', at least while it is an experimental project. Regards, Yurii. From erik at nittin.net Wed Feb 18 14:26:41 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:26:41 -0500 Subject: [admin] One more project hosting In-Reply-To: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> References: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Message-ID: <789202C4-621E-11D8-8780-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 18, 2004, at 5:58 AM, Yurii A. Rashkovskii wrote: > I'm experimenting with CIL (MSIL) for Common Lisp implementation, and > would > like to host it on c-l.net, too :) > > Project name: clotnet > > Description: clotnet is an experimental project to let > a) Common Lisp generate MSIL code > b) Potentially, Common Lisp compiler to MSIL instruction set (so let > CL run > on .NET platform) > > License: BSD I approve. Erik. From erik at nittin.net Thu Feb 19 13:37:07 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:37:07 -0500 Subject: [admin] One more project hosting In-Reply-To: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> References: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Message-ID: On Feb 18, 2004, at 5:58 AM, Yurii A. Rashkovskii wrote: > I'm experimenting with CIL (MSIL) for Common Lisp implementation, and > would > like to host it on c-l.net, too :) Project created. Have fun! Erik. From yrashk at fp.org.ua Thu Feb 19 15:50:39 2004 From: yrashk at fp.org.ua (Yurii A. Rashkovskii) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:50:39 +0200 Subject: [admin] One more project hosting References: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Message-ID: <00ad01c3f700$2f087550$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Erik, > > I'm experimenting with CIL (MSIL) for Common Lisp implementation, and > > would > > like to host it on c-l.net, too :) > > Project created. Have fun! Thank you! Could somebody add /project/clotnet/public_html/clotnet at common-lisp.net to ViewARCH? Regards, Yurii. From erik at nittin.net Thu Feb 19 15:56:59 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:56:59 -0500 Subject: [admin] One more project hosting In-Reply-To: <00ad01c3f700$2f087550$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> References: <003f01c3f60e$3a3988d0$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> <00ad01c3f700$2f087550$630a0a0a@kiev.ua.ddlabs.com> Message-ID: <3FE4D9B9-62F4-11D8-8780-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 19, 2004, at 10:50 AM, Yurii A. Rashkovskii wrote: > > Could somebody add > /project/clotnet/public_html/clotnet at common-lisp.net to > ViewARCH? Done. Erik. From root at common-lisp.net Wed Feb 18 14:19:10 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:19:10 -0500 Subject: [admin] added log4cl; owned by nlamirault Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.18.09.19. From root at common-lisp.net Thu Feb 19 13:36:32 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:36:32 -0500 Subject: [admin] added clotnet; owned by yrashkovskii Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.19.08.36. From ktilton at nyc.rr.com Tue Feb 24 21:35:10 2004 From: ktilton at nyc.rr.com (Kenny Tilton) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:35:10 -0500 Subject: [admin] cells project passwords Message-ID: <403BC38E.5000809@nyc.rr.com> I have no idea what are my passwords on the cells project accounts. Can those be unearthed or reset? thx, kenny -- http://tilton-technology.com Why Lisp? http://alu.cliki.net/RtL%20Highlight%20Film Your Project Here! http://alu.cliki.net/Industry%20Application From erik at nittin.net Tue Feb 24 21:56:38 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:56:38 -0500 Subject: [admin] cells project passwords In-Reply-To: <403BC38E.5000809@nyc.rr.com> References: <403BC38E.5000809@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <52705EF9-6714-11D8-BBCC-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 24, 2004, at 4:35 PM, Kenny Tilton wrote: > I have no idea what are my passwords on the cells project accounts. > Can those be unearthed or reset? Are you refering to the ktilton at common-lisp.net user account or the mailinglists? In either case, they can be reset. I just need to know which ones. Erik. From e9626484 at stud3.tuwien.ac.at Wed Feb 25 00:11:45 2004 From: e9626484 at stud3.tuwien.ac.at (Helmut Eller) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 01:11:45 +0100 Subject: [admin] Adding Paul Seibel to SLIME committers Message-ID: Hello cl.net admins, could add Peter Seibel to the SLIME committers please? Peter, you have to send your PGP key [*] Helmut. [*] http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/admin/2003-December/000299.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 231 bytes Desc: not available URL: From peter at javamonkey.com Wed Feb 25 02:42:13 2004 From: peter at javamonkey.com (Peter Seibel) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:42:13 -0000 Subject: [admin] Re: Adding Paul Seibel to SLIME committers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Helmut Eller writes: > Hello cl.net admins, > > could add Peter Seibel to the SLIME committers please? > > Peter, you have to send your PGP key [*] Here you go. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBEA8Ci0RBACc2ByZdY97TpiriFutWPQ+n64yGIeHHyB0nD3964e3XfsY1R/n RjFqq/DElflbH5gZ67se1SbX3F52jws8e016pWGbOzP7k3lTqK5dwiow7KEv2Qg5 QOTbF47sdgmI0ULeNPP/cBYkrX01/rfWxgZuzu3IXcBKq8lL3C6N6EndawCglhnC XyWEakDddzazu7zkly+uYdED/2g2Jw7491EEtDbAP4PJ3xzECZHSKY4rfxF1ZcRx 0QT39DFOf9Ld972eWagh1aMP70qntd7YvH01rFgCaH5/75PCIUlPqSZ4h73Z2uj6 niW9ccYbTKyKrMVGYTPiOEoQogtwm7gELbu7ikVCmIpm/JYizA32XfTtu+XTGpyE rZQSA/9R/FaQFRgS5iY1ML7twq3ReI6YwqGkrNj7bb0RFtP1lfKfyqwYIm7DJ2ZF RCDrNsOGcFG/mKg9DN2StHGx7GYGte+7p/SMUZNS2DKj9CyFC9zUBC+6mvYcZv/+ n5z5eTY0SRXhznWxuJN1eN0KRWC28qsgt3/71Yt/0gQmUdFG3bQjUGV0ZXIgU2Vp YmVsIDxwZXRlckBqYXZhbW9ua2V5LmNvbT6IXgQTEQIAHgUCQDwKLQIbAwYLCQgH AwIDFQIDAxYCAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAfXKF3FrzsW45jAJ44FCPueS8lBJBlCPPyUDia XOIFSACbBxCbdhpTrI2W1ixSK9CGLcp6uwy5AQ0EQDwKLhAEAK+4kIgo2BueWMd5 jbansmbSItcs8ADCuMTXrCkb39ds73GSqWLu2TtK0wUT7pwF0hgBnrVHQcmQDbyl vXeGxzTSrorid2zr3+9FvfD3nOAGSUJIpysww1ULsEejcjYnMpiJWc50gzeoq3wp 87mZgx5g2p1xblcgeW65EOa9biTfAAMFA/9EpaT8O095kKRmFvDSuXlr6Suar7AD 4e+kL0M6Z09ThDknwkr61eIVNw/d4MHaNMNRUNItk7v0UOWFsN62t6+hH936IFgD PVgvX+CvcGG/GxRVYHnNUQu3Ace4cnUQjR1YamrdukO7lUX/80U4roqb7DMfVH7W 9Bj3tpNwZB3U/4hJBBgRAgAJBQJAPAouAhsMAAoJEB9coXcWvOxbk6IAn2raLwag +4rHSNf713HiZxscqJ1YAKCU3e4PukCuhPWpIFh5b0ZKx2Wudw== =QUfL -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -- Peter Seibel peter at javamonkey.com Lisp is the red pill. -- John Fraser, comp.lang.lisp From erik at nittin.net Wed Feb 25 11:02:07 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:02:07 -0500 Subject: [admin] Adding Paul Seibel to SLIME committers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D7E8168-6782-11D8-B0A0-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 24, 2004, at 7:11 PM, Helmut Eller wrote: > could add Peter Seibel to the SLIME committers please? Done. Erik. From ktilton at nyc.rr.com Wed Feb 25 16:12:05 2004 From: ktilton at nyc.rr.com (Kenny Tilton) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:12:05 -0500 Subject: [admin] Cello project? Message-ID: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> Gents, It looks as if a portable CL gui is going to happen: Frank Goenninger has Cello running under Linux/X11. It is still a close call in my mind as to whether Cello needs its own project, but I can imagine someone interested only in Cells being swamped with all the Cello traffic if it takes off. So I would like to apply for hosting for Cello here on common-lisp.net. cheers, kenny -- http://tilton-technology.com Why Lisp? http://alu.cliki.net/RtL%20Highlight%20Film Your Project Here! http://alu.cliki.net/Industry%20Application From erik at nittin.net Wed Feb 25 16:26:02 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:26:02 -0500 Subject: [admin] Cello project? In-Reply-To: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> References: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4DBCB6C7-67AF-11D8-B0A0-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 25, 2004, at 11:12 AM, Kenny Tilton wrote: > It looks as if a portable CL gui is going to happen Yay! > So I would like to apply for hosting for Cello here on common-lisp.net. Approved! Erik. From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Wed Feb 25 17:29:29 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:29:29 +0100 Subject: [admin] Cello project? In-Reply-To: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> References: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: Kenny Tilton writes: > It looks as if a portable CL gui is going to happen: Frank Goenninger > has Cello running under Linux/X11. :) Great! > So I would like to apply for hosting for Cello here on common-lisp.net. Under what licence is it going to be? Sorry, but we have to know... regards, Mario. From ktilton at nyc.rr.com Wed Feb 25 17:58:52 2004 From: ktilton at nyc.rr.com (Kenny Tilton) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:58:52 -0500 Subject: [admin] Cello project? In-Reply-To: References: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <403CE25C.50404@nyc.rr.com> Mario Mommer wrote: >Kenny Tilton writes: > > >>It looks as if a portable CL gui is going to happen: Frank Goenninger >>has Cello running under Linux/X11. >> >> > >:) Great! > > > >>So I would like to apply for hosting for Cello here on common-lisp.net. >> >> > >Under what licence is it going to be? Sorry, but we have to know... > My bad, i meant to provide that info then just spaced. My stuff is the MIT license. Users then pull in optional libraries if they like. All the ones to which I offer interfaces are X-consortium or MIT or the like. Not even an LGPL, which is good for Lisp. But anyway, all the source I want hosted is MIT licensed. kenny From mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de Wed Feb 25 22:40:50 2004 From: mommer at igpm.rwth-aachen.de (Mario Mommer) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 23:40:50 +0100 Subject: [admin] Cello project? In-Reply-To: <403CE25C.50404@nyc.rr.com> References: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> <403CE25C.50404@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: Kenny Tilton writes: > >Under what licence is it going to be? Sorry, but we have to know... > > > My bad, i meant to provide that info then just spaced. Oh, never mind. I was just feeling like a party killer for asking such a question :) > My stuff is the MIT license. Users then pull in optional libraries > if they like. All the ones to which I offer interfaces are > X-consortium or MIT or the like. Not even an LGPL, which is good for > Lisp. But anyway, all the source I want hosted is MIT licensed. Ok, I approve. Regards, Mario. From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Thu Feb 26 06:56:37 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:56:37 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] Cello project? In-Reply-To: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> References: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Kenny Tilton wrote: > So I would like to apply for hosting for Cello here on common-lisp.net. Approved, -- Nikodemus Siivola From ktilton at nyc.rr.com Thu Feb 26 07:09:57 2004 From: ktilton at nyc.rr.com (Kenny Tilton) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 02:09:57 -0500 Subject: [admin] Cello project? In-Reply-To: References: <403CC955.2060601@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <403D9BC5.9010801@nyc.rr.com> >>So I would like to apply for hosting for Cello here on common-lisp.net. >> >> > >Approved, > > -- Nikodemus Siivola > > Cool. Thx. Code reorg to make things pick-and-choose going well, should be stabilized by the time the cello accounts are set up. cheers, kenny -- http://tilton-technology.com Why Lisp? http://alu.cliki.net/RtL%20Highlight%20Film Your Project Here! http://alu.cliki.net/Industry%20Application From peter at javamonkey.com Thu Feb 26 06:13:58 2004 From: peter at javamonkey.com (Peter Seibel) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:13:58 -0000 Subject: [admin] Okay to use authorized_keys? Message-ID: So I was skimming the link from the FAQ about using ssh-agent to enable passwordless connections to common-lisp.net and it occured to me that I could just scp the authorized_keys file that has my public ssh keys in it to common-lisp.net and be good to go. Is there any reason not to do that? (The private keys is on my personal machines which are behind a NAT firewall.) -Peter -- Peter Seibel peter at javamonkey.com Lisp is the red pill. -- John Fraser, comp.lang.lisp From erik at nittin.net Thu Feb 26 06:45:48 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 01:45:48 -0500 Subject: [admin] Okay to use authorized_keys? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69214C3C-6827-11D8-BC2F-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 26, 2004, at 1:13 AM, Peter Seibel wrote: > So I was skimming the link from the FAQ about using ssh-agent to > enable passwordless connections to common-lisp.net and it occured to > me that I could just scp the authorized_keys file that has my public > ssh keys in it to common-lisp.net and be good to go. Is there any > reason not to do that? (The private keys is on my personal machines > which are behind a NAT firewall.) Nope, I do it myself. Erik. From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Thu Feb 26 07:09:28 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:09:28 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] Okay to use authorized_keys? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Peter Seibel wrote: > So I was skimming the link from the FAQ about using ssh-agent to > enable passwordless connections to common-lisp.net and it occured to > me that I could just scp the authorized_keys file that has my public > ssh keys in it to common-lisp.net and be good to go. Is there any > reason not to do that? (The private keys is on my personal machines > which are behind a NAT firewall.) AFAIK that's exactly the right way to do it. (Provided the keys are protected by passphrases!) On similar topic, should there be a cautionary note against chained ssh connections to MOTD? Cheers, -- Nikodemus From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Thu Feb 26 07:16:58 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:16:58 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] listinfo page Message-ID: It seems that all the lists have gone into hiding: http://www.common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo Cheers, -- Nikodemus From erik at nittin.net Thu Feb 26 14:39:31 2004 From: erik at nittin.net (Erik Enge) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:39:31 -0500 Subject: [admin] listinfo page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96BFBE0A-6869-11D8-BC82-000A95CEC334@nittin.net> On Feb 26, 2004, at 2:16 AM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote: > It seems that all the lists have gone into hiding: Wow, weird. Perhaps there is a limit on how many lists it will try to display. Erik. From root at common-lisp.net Thu Feb 26 14:41:29 2004 From: root at common-lisp.net (root) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:41:29 -0500 Subject: [admin] added cello; owned by ktilton Message-ID: Add successful at 2004.02.26.09.41. From tsiivola at cc.hut.fi Thu Feb 26 19:25:40 2004 From: tsiivola at cc.hut.fi (Nikodemus Siivola) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:25:40 +0200 (EET) Subject: [admin] Keysigning frenzy Message-ID: Ok, having my home connectivity restored at least temporarily I've now signed all the user keys that /home/*/pubkey.asc found. That was a few! I'm rather flabbergasted how can gpg not have an option "list all keys that match criteria X". Maybe I'm just blind. It seems to me that the easiest way to sign a ton of keys is to: 1) gpg --import /home/*/pubkey.asc 2) in other window gpg --list-sigs | grep -v "User id not found" | less and look for keys we haven't signed 3) gpg --sign , repeat until 4) gpg --send-keys 4) gpg --armor --export > ... Not all that automatable. Cheers, -- Nikodemus Siivola From mramos at montevideo.com.uy Sun Feb 29 20:16:19 2004 From: mramos at montevideo.com.uy (Marcelo Ramos) Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:16:19 -0300 Subject: [admin] cl-ncurses: hosting request Message-ID: <20040229171619.664adda1.mramos@montevideo.com.uy> Requester's name: Marcelo Ramos Description of project: cl-ncurses is a ncurses interface for Common Lisp. Members: Marcelo Ramos and Nikodemus Siivola Name of project: cl-ncurses License: MIT/BSD style Thanks in advance. -- Marcelo Ramos